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Old 07-09-2015, 07:00 PM
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Well I have been investigating the means by which I will control my telescope once I move into my new house in (hopefully) mid October. As such I have decided to run the gauntlet of switching over to Linux based image capture.

So far I have set-up a dual boot OS on my image processing machine and installed Kstars with Ekos and Indi libraries. The simulations so far have been promising.

One reason I am considering Linux is because of the ability to run the indi library as a remote server. This means that I will be able to use a Raspberry Pi (i am using a Pi2 but pi 1's work) as a server host at the scope that I can remote into with Ekos from inside the house using either wireless or Ethernet. Best of all the Pi runs of the same USB hub my other equipment will be plugged into. Not bad for only $35

This means that provided the wireless connection works in my location works I would be able to reduce cabling running up the mount to only one (power). I got the Pi today and have loaded the operating system and Indi server on to it and will be testing the remote server with some of my equipment in the coming days.

I will keep you advise of how it goes.
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Old 07-09-2015, 07:18 PM
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Interested to know how you go!

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Old 07-09-2015, 08:59 PM
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Yes, thanks for sharing Grady. Fascinating how small form factor PCs are starting to inflitrate the hobby.
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Old 07-09-2015, 09:51 PM
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I'm sure you're aware of the INDI forums. They should be able to help you out if you get stuck. I've seen some people there exploring using the Raspberry PI. I intend doing so myself if I can ever find time between other projects.
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Old 08-09-2015, 10:32 AM
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I'm interested to know what software you will use for camera control/image sequencing. Is there a Linux equivalent of SGP or APT?
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Old 08-09-2015, 10:55 AM
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Yes it is called Ekos it is a part of Kstars. It apparently does everything SGP does bar the mosaic generation.

It also has a built in guiding application.

here is the link

http://indilib.org/about/ekos.html
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Old 08-09-2015, 10:59 AM
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Any idea if Ekos supports an STL-11000M with a self-guiding chip?

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Old 08-09-2015, 11:42 AM
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it appears so Octane.

http://www.indilib.org/devices/ccds/sbig-ccd.html

it says that they support dual cameras
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Old 08-09-2015, 12:09 PM
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Oh, awesome.

Time to buy another Raspberry Pi 2.

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Old 08-09-2015, 12:14 PM
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Just a word of warning Octane, in my research I have found that if your imaging using a CCD you need to ensure that the CCD and other devices are plugged into a powered USB hub as the Pi lacks the amps. Also you have to ensure you plug the Pi into the same hub (for power) to ensure there is no differential between devices in regards Voltage and Grounding.

You can plug them in separately but it creates image noise (because the Pi isn't independently grounded.)
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Old 08-09-2015, 02:10 PM
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Cheers, Grady.

Yep, I'm using a good powered hub with plenty of slots free.

It'll make for some fun experimenting. I'm hoping the Pi has the guts to run my rig. If not, I'll just go back to the XP laptop.

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Old 08-09-2015, 02:21 PM
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That's the beauty of the indi system (well compared to ascom). The Pi doesn't have the grunt to do the heavy lifting but Indi allows you to create a server using the Pi and have the CPU heavy processing be done by a decent rig inside the house.

Essentially its like a cheap Ethernet USB hub lol. The Pi 2 has (theoretically) the grunt to do the imaging capture as well but it is advisable to merely us it as a imaging sever.
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Old 08-09-2015, 04:05 PM
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Ohh...this looks really interesting, thanks Grady
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Old 08-09-2015, 04:39 PM
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BTW, what's your distro of choice for the main PC inside?
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Old 08-09-2015, 07:57 PM
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Distro on main pc is plain unbuntu 15.04 although I am looking at changing to Astrodistro 3.0.

The Pi is running raspberian
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Old 09-09-2015, 05:36 PM
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About the only thing the Pi may struggle with is doing plate solving at reasonable speed. However, INDI can be run in a remote operation, so perhaps the heavy lifting can be done on a remote computer and the Pi just controlling the mount, etc. Something to consider/explore I guess.
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Old 10-09-2015, 07:03 AM
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About the only thing the Pi may struggle with is doing plate solving at reasonable speed. However, INDI can be run in a remote operation, so perhaps the heavy lifting can be done on a remote computer and the Pi just controlling the mount, etc. Something to consider/explore I guess.
That's certainly the advice the INDI developers give. It's advice based on the original Raspberry 1 but despite the advances in the new 2B version, probably still holds good - use the RP as server at the scope and remote in from a computer with more grunt. I'm looking at a 2B as server and an Intel Stick Compute as a remote host. Haven't got either yet - Intel Stick on oder though. Anyone tried doing this?
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Old 10-09-2015, 08:54 AM
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The only limiting factor about the stick is that it only has wireless connection which is fine if you can run everything on the stick but not so good if your wireless connection is dodgy. Also it costs $189 to replace if you have a Dew event as opposed to $35 for the Pi 2.

If this doesn't work though I will probably go down the stick method lol.
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Old 10-09-2015, 10:12 AM
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I can't get the INDI library to install. I'm running Raspian. Something about libc6 being less than version 2.17; I didn't think there was any versions greater than 2.13 for the ARM processor.

Any suggestions?

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Old 10-09-2015, 05:32 PM
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http://rts2.org/

http://www.astro.louisville.edu/software/

Is this of any help?

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