Go Back   IceInSpace > Equipment > Equipment Discussions
Register FAQ Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread
  #1  
Old 18-12-2015, 01:50 PM
LewisM's Avatar
LewisM
Novichok test rabbit

LewisM is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Somewhere in the cosmos...
Posts: 10,389
Running a dewstrap on a 9V battery

I know about these http://www.tech2000astronomy.com/zap/ and am considering to order considering I am tired of cables going everywhere, but was wondering if it would be feasible to convert a standard dew strap (built for 12V DC) to a battery operated one using a 9V alkaline (simple 9V clip and a female RCA plug). Or maybe make it a 12V pack like Vixen used to make (8 x 1.5V D cells in series)

Or is there going to be some odd impedence issues etc, or maybe damage the strap - I believe under-voltage can be as bad for an item as over-voltage.

Appreciate the tech help on this one.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 18-12-2015, 03:36 PM
AndrewJ
Watch me post!

AndrewJ is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 1,905
Gday Lewis

What type of strap is it???
If it is a simple resistor string, or nichrome wire, it wont hurt anything, it will just put out a lot less heat.
Ie many dew "controllers" use PWM to effectively reduce the operating voltage as required to control the heating power out.
Ohms law gives V = I x R
and power out P = V x I
Mixing these 2 you can get P = V^2 / R
Thus at 12V you get 144/R watts
and at 9V you get 81/R watts
so about 56% of what you would get at 12V

Andrew
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 18-12-2015, 03:55 PM
LewisM's Avatar
LewisM
Novichok test rabbit

LewisM is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Somewhere in the cosmos...
Posts: 10,389
Thanks Andrew.

I wonder how long an A23 12V battery (the small ones) would run a dew strap (they are apparently merely 8 x 1.5V button batteries in series) . Some claim their 9V straps run a year on one battery.

Failing all this, I may just buy a small 12V and run it off that. I got 4 years out of 1 jump start pack that uses a similar battery, so 4 years is pretty decent odds. I just want the compactness of the battery alone.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 18-12-2015, 04:12 PM
AndrewJ
Watch me post!

AndrewJ is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 1,905
Gday Lewis
Quote:
Some claim their 9V straps run a year on one battery.
That would probably work if they weren't ever turned on

Can i ask a simple question???
How long does a ubiquitous 12V 7.2AHr battery last with a dewheater????
A 9V Alkaline battery is rated at between 400-700mAhr
ref one datasheet i found http://data.energizer.com/PDFs/522.pdf
If you drop from 12V to 9V on a set resistance strip, your current draw will go up by about 30%
Sooo
12V with 7200 mAhr vs 9V with 700mAhr

No contest. unless the strip is only for a red dot finder etc with a very low heat requirement
You are better off looking for the new light weight LiPo battery packs etc that are used by the model plane nuts. Very high energy density and light weight, but costly.
( Or, just run one 12V wire to yr mount and have a distribution box on the mount to supply 12V as reqd. )


Andrew
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +10. The time is now 09:14 AM.

Powered by vBulletin Version 3.8.7 | Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Advertisement
Astrophotography Prize
Advertisement
Bintel
Advertisement