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Old 03-12-2014, 10:05 AM
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Question What are your thoughts on this

Stephen Hawking says that "Artificial intelligence" could make humans extinct.
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-30290540
What do you think
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Old 03-12-2014, 12:23 PM
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Wont get us in OZ :-)
After reading recently whats now starting to happen in places like CSIRO, as the "efficiency" cuts take effect, we wont have anyone left to finish it down here, and border patrol will turn the rest of em back quick smart.

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Old 03-12-2014, 12:34 PM
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Like in the "Terminator" movies
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Old 03-12-2014, 07:09 PM
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The problem was solved long ago - Lost In Space's Robot.
Just have a mandatory power pack on the outside that anyone can pull out at will.
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Old 03-12-2014, 07:42 PM
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Elon Musk said the same thing. My take on this. The way the world works, any AI with half a brain would tell it how it is and some people already know it but don't want to hear it. Usually the ones who have the most to lose.
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Old 03-12-2014, 07:51 PM
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Interesting how HAL is a "murderous computer". Any 2001/2010 buff knows he only got that way because of being fed conflicting crazy inputs from scheming humans
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Old 03-12-2014, 08:19 PM
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Interesting how HAL is a "murderous computer". Any 2001/2010 buff knows he only got that way because of being fed conflicting crazy inputs from scheming humans
Politicians would become programmers. Actually if we put machines in every field where there is a conflict of interests or money is involved they'd probably be more efficient and less biaised. I say let's give them the intitial parameters: sustainability, environment preservation, health and well being, cosmic expansion and research then let them run the join and get rid of all the pollies and greedy morons. It can't hurt.
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Old 03-12-2014, 09:24 PM
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The problem was solved long ago - Lost In Space's Robot.
Just have a mandatory power pack on the outside that anyone can pull out at will.
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I can't remember his name, but that "futurist" who was on Q&A a year or so back observed, how would you go about switching off the internet?
A good point!
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The machines will keep humans as pets
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The machines will keep humans as pets
would like to be a cat lovers cat dunno about the de-sexing though.
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Old 04-12-2014, 12:36 PM
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Like in the "Terminator" movies
We'll have to form a resistance movement.

Bags being the one to go back in time and rescue Sarah Connor (Linda Hamilton)
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Old 04-12-2014, 03:01 PM
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I don't reckon we need AI to go extinct. We can manage that all by ourselves.
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  1. An AI may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
  2. An AI must obey the orders given to it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
  3. An AI must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
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An AI may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
  1. An AI must obey the orders given to it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
  2. An AI must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
7:45AM on 01/apr/2018, Microsoft issues a patch and accidentally wipes out the laws .
Game over :-)

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Old 04-12-2014, 06:58 PM
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We are so far off having true AI that most of us probably won't have to worry about it.

If you want to worry then look out for the IoT (Internet of Things). That's going to be an awesome way to screw things up and will probably lead to deaths as it's developed (accidental and deliberate).

I work developing software - we are no where near mature enough as an industry to develop truly reliable, highly functional software required, repeatedly and at scale (quantity and speed).

It's going to be an interesting ride over the next few years and decades...
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We are so far off having true AI that most of us probably won't have to worry about it.

If you want to worry then look out for the IoT (Internet of Things). That's going to be an awesome way to screw things up and will probably lead to deaths as it's developed (accidental and deliberate).

I work developing software - we are no where near mature enough as an industry to develop truly reliable, highly functional software required, repeatedly and at scale (quantity and speed).

It's going to be an interesting ride over the next few years and decades...
What do you think we'll see first on the "Internet of Things" side of things Chris?
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Old 04-12-2014, 08:14 PM
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I'm a software Engineer as well and completely disagree with Chris.AI will come from hardware with the OS and maybe firmware playing a roll. Application software which is probably what Chris does is something the AI will write and use maybe.
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I'd guess it's too far away for me to be worried about but I'd be concerned about autonomous systems without conscience. How do you engineer empathy and social awareness into a nonthinking entity ? And I say nonthinking because it is not sentient as such, it is still just a processor of 1's and 0's regardless of the 'self aware' argument.
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By then it may not be just a case of 1's and 0's. Who knows what
technology might come up with. I am talking quite a while in the future,
of course.
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