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Old 25-08-2006, 10:57 AM
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Found my mistake

Great ....now I know why the Go To thought Jupiter was over near Vega... I added the local mag variation of 10 degrees to 180. So I had much trouble slewing last night. Found my mistake by doing a search here. I'm impressed with my C8 after 2 nights of powering on, though dew is a problem I will have to address. Now back to the Due South problem a lot of us are having problems with. Has anybody designed a simple sort of mount that fits over the telescope head that will hold a compass so an accurate reading can be taken. Sounds a lot easier than searching for a faint star "somewhere down there".Can someone let me know if I am on the wrong approach with this. I'm findind it fun to work through this telescope one step at a time.
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Old 25-08-2006, 11:20 AM
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Annoyance * 100! - just wrote a huge how to response, but I chose one of two duplicate threads to add this too, unfortunately an admin zapped this parent duplicate thread after I had spent 20 minutes given you a detailed reply - hence my original post was orphaned and thereby lost - to my huge annoyance - once I pressed the save button - it gave a contact the administrator message cause something had gone wrong! Guessed admin zapped the duplicate I was posting too just before I entered the save button - it can happen! So a very quick re-summation follows...

NB - Admins - you probably need an agreed policy of which duplicate to zap (either the earliest one or the least read one) before zapping a random duplicate and potentially inconvenciencing someone the way I was...

Evan

Are you on a CG5 goto mount and using a tripod?

You can get a electronic compass from Jaycar for < $30
In Sydney True South / Celestial South is 13 degrees left (East) of Magnetic South.

Mark a line True North / South line on the ground.

Circle where your tripod legs should be with permanent marker or surveyor pegs.

Use Utilities -> Polar Align -> Display Align to see how well your polar alignment is
Use List -> Constellations -> Sigma Octans -> Polar Australias to see where Polar South should be
Use Utilities -> Polar Align -> Do Polar Align to move where your polar alignment is then manually slew it using the mount screws (not the mount to pointing direction buttons on the hand controller) back to Polar Australias

then do another 3 star alignment

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Old 25-08-2006, 03:38 PM
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Sorry about your reply getting lost, but it was my fault and not the admins. I had an urgent phone call to take and when I came back I'd forgotten if I had sent my post, so I clicked send again. I 'll take more care in future.
I'll work my way through your instructions.
Yes I have a CG5 , and one problem is I need to move the scope to different positions.
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Old 25-08-2006, 05:17 PM
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Evan,

The CG5 is a nice but quirky mount. Some of its oddities

1. Start-up requires location, time, AM/PM, timezone, date to complete set-up once you have powered on the mount. However the clock doesn't start running until you press enter for the date! So if you had entered everything but the date and weren't sure of the calander date and went inside to check, then came back out to enter the date, well then the time you entered would be a few minutes late by the time you press the final enter that starts the clock!

Solution - Be aware of this set time delay and allow say a minute ahead when seconds will be exactly 00 and only press the final date entry when your time is exactly 00 seconds!

2. Entering your lattitude / longitude with precise co-ordinates from say Google Earth - confuses the hell out of what time zone to select (for me Sydney is time zone 10). Yet when I choose custom site with precise lattitude and longitue down to the second of arc for both lattitude and longitude, and set time zone 10, then all my slews were 90 degrees out (like it thought the time was 4 hours earlier then it was) and (far worse) this pointing error had a very serious side effect; in abbout one out of every three gotos the motor housings would actually collide into each other!

Correction - select the nearest major city not custom site, or buy GPS, or use a custome site but much around with time zones (not advised!).

3. Sometimes on power on backlash is terrible. The scope really jumps with the lightest movement on the paddle, then when you release the key it jumps back the otherway.

Solution - either

at power on - do a slight movement with the paddle in all four directions one after the other, if its jumpy recycle the power. Only happens one time in 4 four me and this fixes it with at most 2-3 power cycles before I even enter the date or time.

or

If you are all set-up the go to utilities and change the backlash (even if its from the default 18 on all directions down to 0).

4. Power on doesn't say initialising, the hand controller screen is garbled.

Solution - power off for 10 seconds and re-power on, takes at most 2 goes for me.

5. Althought the mount knows your polar alignment pointing error from your say 3 star align, it only corrects for this on GoTo's - NOT TRACKING! So it will go to accurately, but not follow a star if your alignment is poor. Pressing Go To again with re-centre the star which will then drift off again. The mount only tracks using the RA motor with no correction for pointing errors!!!!!

Solution - accurately drift align!



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Other hints with this mount

Always align with RA up and Dec right to centre your guide stars to get best goto ability with the scope.

Check everything is level - including your bubble works with a spirit level.

Realise you lattitude declination reading can be between +/- 3 degrees off and correct for this. So lets say you set it for 45 lattitude then run a dowel rod though the polar scope cavity and measured its deflection to a straight, flat table and check is the angle 45 degrees with a 45 degree set square - mine was 2 degrees to low, so I corrected it, then popped out the plastic inclantation measure - corrected for the right position and then hot glued it back in to the correctly position =/- 0.5 degrees, and set it for the correct lattitude.

Best luck and lets swap experiences with this mount

Matt

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