This was an exercise to keep me sane while building my new observatory (neeearly finished), not new data but a new image
As I have done with a couple of other data sets lately, this is an LHaOIIIRGB hybrid image combining two data sets from two optical and imaging systems
I aimed to display the entire huge dynamic range, from right inside the trapezium to the outer reaches with the intention of keeping the main nebula looking like it is kind of floating in the outer much fainter dust and gas against the empty sky behind..?
Very dramatic and grand, Mike! I didn't realise your image scale was so similar on the frac and the newt before you switched to the itty bitty SX.
Good luck with the obsy. I haven't had a single dark sky night this year and this new moon weekend will be wet again I definitely need a break from narrowband.
Thanks for checking it out guys and glad you liked it
Rick, yes the Starfire is about 1300mm FL the AG12 is 1120mm. I used the 11002 chip on the Starfire though which coupled with the slightly longer FL is a smaller FOV than the AG12 with 16803. So the 16803 on the AG12 provided all the outer details but the inner 2/3 or so is a combination and multiple blends of the two data sets.
you like playing with it don't you Mike - my its big and bright with blue tips and red bits - quite stunning but to me the trap area looks a tad unnatural - too clean and crisp
mind you though i would love to have data like this…...
Thanks for the feedback guys, glad the handling of the dynamic range and detail pleases most
Houghy, I know exactly what you are saying and should it have been composed purely to please say..David Malin, with the respect the light mantra strictly in mind (which incidentally, he is quite inconsistent with in his judging) I would have brightened and not gone for the level of details in that area. However in this case I really wanted to showcase those fine details in that area and thought the final result was close enough while still revealing what I wanted to ...actually the fine details close in to the trap are indeed more intricate than the area immediately around it so I think that also accentuates what you are interpreting
Thanks for the feedback guys, glad the handling of the dynamic range and detail pleases most
Houghy, I know exactly what you are saying and should it have been composed purely to please say..David Malin, with the respect the light mantra strictly in mind (which incidentally, he is quite inconsistent with in his judging) I would have brightened and not gone for the level of details in that area. However in this case I really wanted to showcase those fine details in that area and thought the final result was close enough while still revealing what I wanted to ...actually the fine details close in to the trap are indeed more intricate than the area immediately around it so I think that also accentuates what you are interpreting
MIke
Interesting reading and image Mike!
I like the way the often over exposed outer regions of the main nebula of M42 stand out, they have depth.
Reminds me of the rim of a canyon.
When you say respect the light, what exactly does that mean, been rather confused about this.
When you say respect the light, what exactly does that mean, been rather confused about this.
Cheers,
Justin.
This is a comment David made about an M42 I presented for David Malin awards in 2011.
David was unimpressed by my image and others that had been presented. He said light areas should be light and dark areas should be dark. That damn saying has been following me around ever since.
As to the image. Well Mike I like the detail, but differ on opinion to the nebulae colouring. Meh, dealers choice I suppose. It looks a little blue to me, but it all looks nice to look at. Time to get your obs running again.
Incidently do you have the OIII data to show. I am interested to how much was available. When I imaged last year I did not get time to get OIII data.
I like the way the often over exposed outer regions of the main nebula of M42 stand out, they have depth.
Reminds me of the rim of a canyon.
When you say respect the light, what exactly does that mean, been rather confused about this.
Cheers,
Justin.
Cheers Justin
Dr Malin did indeed start this mantra where he has asked that images show really bright areas as bright and darker areas as not as bright ie not to spread the dynamic range toooo much or you risk losing the reality of the scene. So... I guess to do well in his competition one perhaps needs to do just as he says ...having said that though, just to throw a spanner in the works, David still awards images that don't really adhere to this mantra, so it can be a little confusing . In the end... do what you want I recon
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As to the image. Well Mike I like the detail, but differ on opinion to the nebulae colouring.
Hmmm? is that beeecaaause David says so
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Meh, dealers choice I suppose.
Yup, that's it
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It looks a little blue to me
Yeah but you know I do loooove blue ...besides, I guess this is in fact a hybrid blend of two nationally and internationally recognised images, judged by no less than a total of 12 officially recognised judges all up so, who is right?...of course winning competitions doth not the image make, seen some what I think are brilliant M42's that have not won imaging comps ...juuust sayin
I am not sure about how blue parts of it really are. It's personal taste anyway really.
Perhaps but I just went back and had a look at your Malin M42 and I note the unique brown colour of the intervening gas and dust seems to start quite abruptly from an apparent boarder around M42 and NGC 1997, like suddenly everything goes brown...how was this? In my data it happens much more gradually with the reds appearing more as you move out into the surrounding sky...?
I definitely need a break from narrowband.
. In the end... do what you want I recon 
...besides, I guess this is in fact a hybrid blend of two nationally and internationally recognised images, judged by no less than a total of 12 officially recognised judges all up 
