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25-05-2014, 06:34 PM
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New Celestron Telescopes
Celestron have 2 new mounts out a 6" and 8" !
http://www.celestron.com/browse-shop...ar-evolution-6
They have a free IOS and Android app you download for free
Called "SkyPortal"
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26-05-2014, 12:01 PM
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Lost in Space ....
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: Auckland, NZ
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Can't find SkyPortal.. searched, '0' results.
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26-05-2014, 01:49 PM
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A Friendly Nyctophiliac
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Toongabbie, NSW
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If I could get my hands on just the mount with a Vixen dovetail head... I would be so happy.
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26-05-2014, 02:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeroID
Can't find SkyPortal.. searched, '0' results.
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"SkyPortal" is just a custom version of SkySafari. I can see it on the iTunes store. Rather than add another app I'd wait for the update to SkySafari to support the scopes.
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26-05-2014, 03:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeroID
Can't find SkyPortal.. searched, '0' results.
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SkyPortal for Android is here.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ortal&hl=en-GB
It's available for iOS too, but I don't have the link.
It's a free version of SkySafari 4 (basic) https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...fari4&hl=en-GB , with the interface for the Celestron NexStar Evolution mount added in. I assume Celestron have done a deal with the developers of SkySafari as the best way to get a decent control app developed and distributed widely.
The next version of SkySafari 4 Plus https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...4plus&hl=en-GB should have the NexStar Evolution interface added anyway, but if you bought a NexStar Evolution mount now, you would want the SkyPortal app to drive it until SkySafari 4 Plus gets the update.
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26-05-2014, 03:21 PM
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Thylacinus stargazoculus
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Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Judbury, Tasmania
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The next patch (or so) of SkySafari will support the SkyQ Link wi-fi adaptor, which is great (I have this for my 8SE mount, but it has never really been much use as the Celestron app that supported it was sh!te).
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26-05-2014, 04:14 PM
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Ebotec Alpeht Sicamb
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Join Date: Feb 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeroID
Can't find SkyPortal.. searched, '0' results.
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It's there, and it looks like a licensed version of Sky Safari (much like the Orion branded one). They appear to have added 2- and 3-star alignment to the app.
The big news is that it's free. I'm going to test it tonight, first to see whether it is a free replacement for Sky Safari and works without the scope, and second, whether it talks to my SkyFi to control my SkyWatcher mount.
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Originally Posted by AG Hybrid
If I could get my hands on just the mount with a Vixen dovetail head... I would be so happy.
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I hear you brother, it looks like it would make a nice accessory for my 6" Mak.
Cheers
Steffen.
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27-05-2014, 10:53 AM
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Drifting from the pole
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Location: Brisbane
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If you look at the Evolution scopes, the tripod on the 9.25" version is more heavy duty (like the CPC tripod?). It'd be interesting to see how the mount interfaces with the tripod...be a lovely grab and go combo for an 8" Edge HD
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27-05-2014, 11:58 AM
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Ebotec Alpeht Sicamb
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So, the free SkyPortal app is indeed a cut down version of Sky Safari. The splash screen says "Powered by Sky Safari 4". I've said cut down, but it could in fact be a adaptation of Sky Safari (basic), I'm only familiar with Sky Safari Pro.
Besides a smallish object database it is missing a few features, display options such as RA/Dec or Alt-Az grid on the sky map, or the hot corner access to field-of-view and mag limit settings.
The app contains most of the object info and accompanying textual descriptions found in Sky Safari, and adds Celestron exclusive audio commentary (probably taken from some of their earlier gadgets).
The telescope control feature exclusively supports NexStar Evolution mounts, and there the app adds a few features over stock Sky Safari (even Pro). The app can perform a number of operations usually found in hand controllers, such as star alignment, tracking rate, slew rate, backlash compensation, power management etc.
I couldn't get it to talk to my SkyFi connected to the HEQ5Pro, but there might be a simple solution to this, like guessing the correct ad hoc network name.
In summary, the app could be useful even for people who don't own NexStar Evolution mounts and just need a basic planetarium app for their iPad. It could also serve as a free preview of the Sky Safari look and feel.
It definitely seems that the era of wired hand controllers for controlling telescope mounts is making way to an all wireless, tablet or smart phone based age.
Cheers
Steffen.
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27-05-2014, 12:44 PM
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Thylacinus stargazoculus
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Steffen, a lot of those features you mention (backlash control, ability to drive Skyalign, audio commentary on a bunch of objects, etc.) were available in Celestron's SkyQ app, which was OK but far too limited. So it looks like they ported over the best features of their old app, and then underpinned it by SS Basic. A good compromise, though obviously I'd not use this given that I have SS Pro.
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27-05-2014, 01:51 PM
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Lost in Space ....
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Cool, thanks, I have a look at it tonnight.
Maybe...
Sky is looking brilliantly clear so will try to get some imaging time, rare these days with current weather patterns.
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28-05-2014, 12:57 AM
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Mark
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Hi Barry,
Does SS4 Plus not support the SkyQ Link Wi-Fi adapter on the 8SE? In the app description it mentions that it adds wireless control for Celestron.
I agree that the Celestron SkyQ app is not very useful, makes it more difficult just to align the scope! Rather just use the hand controller!
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28-05-2014, 01:08 AM
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Thylacinus stargazoculus
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SS4 does not support SkyQ Link yet, but Bill Tschumy from Southern Stars has said that it should be operational in the next patch. In fact the code is already there - the current version has the option to link to SkyQ, but it is just not operational. It is definitely going to happen -- and maybe within a month or so.
Driving the 8SE mount with SS4 Pro is a dream. It doesn't force you to do a Skyalign, it simply accepts the alignment already recorded by the mount. You are also able to calibrate SS4 by using an align button which is equivalent to the handset 'local sync'. Neat. I currently do it via Skywire, but will use SkyQ Link once this is operation, to free up my iPad from wires...
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28-05-2014, 05:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by coldknights
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Here's a first, in commercially made portable mounts:
"Rechargeable lithium-ion battery with enough power for 10 hours of continuous observing".About time.
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28-05-2014, 05:51 PM
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Location: victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Logieberra
Here's a first, in commercially made portable mounts:
"Rechargeable lithium-ion battery with enough power for 10 hours of continuous observing".About time.
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I use a 6800 Mah lithium ion battery from our Dynamic perception stage zero dolly setup
So I take that battery from it and put it on our Grab and go ...GoTo Celestron Nexstar 80GT and works all night till dawn and still has plenty of life still left in it !!!
the battery is over 2 years old and came with a charger for $25 good value from EvilBay.
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28-05-2014, 07:55 PM
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Dazed and confused
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Location: Melbourne
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I boycott Celestron for their unfair pricing arrangements in
Australia.
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28-05-2014, 11:24 PM
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Mark
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Perth
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Thanks Barry,
Will keep my eyes open for the latest version.
SS Pro Looks and sounds pretty damn cool!
Can you align using the hand controller and then use the SS Pro to tour the sky?
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28-05-2014, 11:49 PM
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Ebotec Alpeht Sicamb
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Toongabbie, NSW
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackNebula
Can you align using the hand controller and then use the SS Pro to tour the sky?
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That's how I use it
Cheers
Steffen.
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29-05-2014, 10:16 AM
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Lost in Space ....
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Downloaded, looks good but haven't had a chance to explore yet.
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30-05-2014, 01:10 PM
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Lost in Space ....
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OK, well, it's limited in stars being the 'lite' version obviously but I now see why people like it. Lot of information and it runs very smoothly on my Samsung T3. May have to consider buying the full version a sit certainly matches and betters Stellarium in many areas.
All stars\objects are labelled in the HD designations, no NGC although it will search for them under that name. Is this a limitation of the lite version ?
I love the Mauna Kea horizon option ... surrounded by big Obs...
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