This is a repro of the jelly fish done with pixinsight.
I started from scratch with pixinsight taking care of stacking and calibration of darks and lights., background neutralization and deconvolution. Colour saturation was done in PS 7.
To say I'm a little daunted by this program is an understatement!!
It's a pain to use with my slow internet connection. So I don't know whether I'll use it much until we get decent broadband.
In Pixinsight, look under the Process>IntensityTransformations toolbar menu there is a ColorSaturation process that you can use to selectively adjust colour saturation
In Pixinsight, look under the Process>IntensityTransformations toolbar menu there is a ColorSaturation process that you can use to selectively adjust colour saturation
What colourspace are you using? From the colours it looks like some images I've attempted in ProPhotoRGB. The red nebulosity comes out not quite right.
This is a repro of the jelly fish done with pixinsight.
To say I'm a little daunted by this program is an understatement!!
It's a pain to use with my slow internet connection. So I don't know whether I'll use it much until we get decent broadband.
Justin.
Justin,
Have you given StarTools a try? I've found it quite intuitive and easy to use. And being a home grown product - written by Ivo Jager in Melbourne - support is only an email and a couple of hours away! Can you tell I'm a big fan?!
Nice image btw...
Cheers,
Mario
PS StarTools won't do the stacking but then there's plenty of free products out there that will....
?pain to use with slow internet? I think once you get your head around a few things you will be amazed with the processing results you will get. colours look great
I really like it, but I too am puzzled by the internet remark?
I thought that after the initial registration startup, it didn't connect again unless you did an update? Or is it always checking the license (which is a file in the users document folder anyway)
But, I RELLY like the shot. Perhaps the Ha could come out a bit more, but I like the star colour etc. Wish I could get the stars looking similar!
PI's saturation routine is NOT intuitive, and takes a little fiddling and time. I suggest to ALWAYS run the live preview, or do sample preview area zooms (Alt-N to select an area, than the circle to live preview that selection).
You can also use Curves to up the saturation(and lots of other things as well) Click the "S" button at the end of the row of choices and saturate away. Stick with PI-- the end result is well worth it. You don't need an internet connection except if you are using the trial version which checks your license info over the internet when you open PI but once this has been done you can operate internet free. The paid up version only needs internet for updates, as you would expect.
Geoff
You can also use Curves to up the saturation(and lots of other things as well) Click the "S" button at the end of the row of choices and saturate away.
Yep, works well. You may want to try using a mask too. A luminance mask will allow you to apply more saturation to brighter areas and less/none to dim areas (so you don't colour the background). A star mask will allow you to apply saturation, or desaturation, to the stars only.
You can also use Curves to up the saturation(and lots of other things as well) Click the "S" button at the end of the row of choices and saturate away. Stick with PI-- the end result is well worth it. You don't need an internet connection except if you are using the trial version which checks your license info over the internet when you open PI but once this has been done you can operate internet free. The paid up version only needs internet for updates, as you would expect.
Geoff
Yeah, you are right. Had been a while since I used the trial version (which does check the expiration date etc). I took ages to convince myself to buy it, but am very pleased I did. Well worth it, though I do find myself sneaking the finalised TIF into PS to saturate a bit (I still find the PI saturation routine a little clunky).
The tool I really like a use most is Masked Stretch. Does a great job of realeasing the finery without stretching or clipping the living daylights out of the rest of the image.
What scares me is how PI very easily shows which data you have is bad I have to redo all my bias and flat sets.
What colourspace are you using? From the colours it looks like some images I've attempted in ProPhotoRGB. The red nebulosity comes out not quite right.
Hi Troy,
I'm using sRGB, although pixinsight seems to use sRGB IEC-1996-2.1. which doesn't seem compatable in my old PS7, so I convert to sRGB.
Also I'm using an unmodded DSLR, so getting the red right can be a bit of a challenge.
Quote:
Originally Posted by cybereye
Justin,
Have you given StarTools a try? I've found it quite intuitive and easy to use. And being a home grown product - written by Ivo Jager in Melbourne - support is only an email and a couple of hours away! Can you tell I'm a big fan?!
Nice image btw...
Cheers,
Mario
PS StarTools won't do the stacking but then there's plenty of free products out there that will....
Thanks Mario!
I'll check star tools out.
Quote:
Originally Posted by h0ughy
?pain to use with slow internet? I think once you get your head around a few things you will be amazed with the processing results you will get. colours look great
Thanks David!
I think the short answer is, I'm presuming that because I need to be connected to the internet to use the trial version that it must be have some control.
I really should stop making assumptions!
It does run extremely slow some times, probably more to do with Nortons and other programs slowing my computer.
Quote:
Originally Posted by LewisM
I really like it, but I too am puzzled by the internet remark?
I thought that after the initial registration startup, it didn't connect again unless you did an update? Or is it always checking the license (which is a file in the users document folder anyway)
But, I RELLY like the shot. Perhaps the Ha could come out a bit more, but I like the star colour etc. Wish I could get the stars looking similar!
PI's saturation routine is NOT intuitive, and takes a little fiddling and time. I suggest to ALWAYS run the live preview, or do sample preview area zooms (Alt-N to select an area, than the circle to live preview that selection).
Thanks Lewis!
Answer as above in reply to houghy, regards the internet.
Again a tuff job with an unmodded DSLR to bring out more HA. Don't think there's much more that I can squeeze out of this image.
I'd really Like to see someone with a modded DSLR image this object for comparison.
Thanks for the tips too!
Quote:
Originally Posted by naskies
Very nice, Justin! Is this IC 2872 near the Lambda Cen Neb? "Jellyfish Nebula" usually makes me think of IC 443.
Thanks Dave!
You are right IC2872 , it shows up as an extension of the running chicken in wide field images. I don't know whether it's truly associated.
I just thought I'd call it the jelly fish, perhaps it should be the southern jellyfish.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ghsmith45
You can also use Curves to up the saturation(and lots of other things as well) Click the "S" button at the end of the row of choices and saturate away. Stick with PI-- the end result is well worth it. You don't need an internet connection except if you are using the trial version which checks your license info over the internet when you open PI but once this has been done you can operate internet free. The paid up version only needs internet for updates, as you would expect.
Geoff
Thanks Geoff!
Another useful tip.
Quote:
Originally Posted by RickS
Yep, works well. You may want to try using a mask too. A luminance mask will allow you to apply more saturation to brighter areas and less/none to dim areas (so you don't colour the background). A star mask will allow you to apply saturation, or desaturation, to the stars only.
Nice result all the same Justin, I know nothing about pixinsight tho have found some reds to end-up as crimsons from my dslr also, so I try color management within PS in a rather un-orthodox way Maybe some tutes out there somewhere, though i know Mario has done good work work with Startools
All the best , ,
Nice result all the same Justin, I know nothing about pixinsight tho have found some reds to end-up as crimsons from my dslr also, so I try color management within PS in a rather un-orthodox way Maybe some tutes out there somewhere, though i know Mario has done good work work with Startools
All the best , ,
Thanks Bob!
Yeah, know what you mean about un-orthodox methods. Sometimes it works!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ross G
Nice looking photo Justin.
I like the colours.
Good luck with PI.
Ross.
Thanks Ross!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiraz
really nice image Justin. PixInsight sure is Daunting. regards Ray
I have to redo all my bias and flat sets.
Maybe some tutes out there somewhere, though i know Mario has done good work work with Startools 
