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Old 09-03-2013, 08:24 PM
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Here is a shot at the Tarantuala Nebula I took last night. 12 x 2.5 min subs with my Canon EOS 60Da, which I must say I'm impressed with as a first camera for a beginner like me. Taken through a Meade Classic 200LX 10" SCT with f/6.3 reducer/corrector, on a Losmandy G11 with PhD driving a Starshoot Autoguider and Orion 80mm shortscope, and Backyard EOS.

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Old 09-03-2013, 09:35 PM
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Nice image, Jonathon
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Old 10-03-2013, 12:55 AM
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Hi Jon, I note that your image shows completely different colours
to mine. I realise that you were using a 60a which is more sensitive
to reds than my standard EOS, but my images are a very bright
green,so I wonder what would cause the total absence of green in
your image, and the total absence in my image of both the
predominant colours of your image.
Can anyone enlighten me?
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Old 10-03-2013, 11:17 AM
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Thanks Laurie.

Raymo, I think you are asking a good question, and broaching a topic that is quite complex and that I as a beginner don't pretend to understand. A few observations:

1) I don't *think* the colour difference is down to the different filters in the modded vs unmodded DSLR in this instance. The image by alpal in this IIS thread has pretty much the same colour balance as mine. So I think it will be something to do with the way we have stacked then processed our images.
2) Using DSS to stack images I get quite different colour results if I check the"Use auto white balance" checkbox; the "Use camera white balance", or neither. Sometimes the result sseem unpredictable, I'm sure it's my shortcomings :-)
3) Using MaximDL to calibrate one-shot colour images likewise seems to give me unpredictable colour results; again, I need to understand what all the setting do.
4) What I currently do is use DSS to apply darks and flats; I then use MaximDL to stack and stretch the image. This seems to get the most "natural" colour outcomes.
5) I then did a little bit of processing in Photoshop. I pushed up the saturation and vibrance a bit, and applied quite a lot of sharpening to this particular image as I wanted to see how much detail I could extract. I have another version that is prettier but fuzzier. However, I didn't alter the colour balance too much; a little bit (+5-10) of red and blue to enhance the contrast between the emission and reflection components of the nebula (at least, that's what I think they are).
6) I think there's heaps of green in my image! More than in any other deep sky object I've tried. Can you post a link to yours so we can compare?

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Old 10-03-2013, 11:19 AM
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Nice pic. You need to watch your histogram black point and white point. It's clipped. There is green in the core of the tarantula so don't stress about the colors. You've got them right.

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Old 10-03-2013, 11:46 AM
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Thanks Marc - so could you point me to a "how to" regarding the histogram clipping?

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Thanks Marc - so could you point me to a "how to" regarding the histogram clipping?

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I shifted your color channels up a bit to show you the black clipping. See the sharp cut on the left of the histogram? That's where you lost a lot of faint data. You need to re-stretch your data and watch out fo the faint bits.
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Old 10-03-2013, 08:06 PM
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Cheers Marc - I see what you mean and I've had a quick go restretching (added to original post). I'm not happy yet with colour balance etc., but I think the next one has more faint detail. Thanks for your help
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Hi Jonathan, Thanks for your comprehensive reply. My image was only
a 20sec. snap trying out my new 1100D, and at fairly low power, so the image is much smaller than yours. Yes there is of course some green in your image, but mine is a bright green all over, similar to comet Lemmon,
but a darker green.
I have been film imaging for over 50 yrs. and this new fangled
digital age is overwhelming me. I don't have any idea how to post pics.
or links on this forum [or anywhere else for that matter], and you all use
acronyms and expressions that mean nothing to me. For instance, what does it mean when you ask someone to PM you? I tried to get Ron
Wodaski's book on CCD imaging, but it is out of print. Apparently it
mainly focuses on high end equipment that I can't afford anyway.
I'd better shut up before I bore you all to death,
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