Standardising Jupiter images for posting. Do you have a preference
This has sorta been bugging me for a while now (see thread "Which way up for Jupiter") and I'd be interested to see if we can reach some sort of concensus on this issue.
The poll is: Is it important to have a standardized orientation for posting images of Jupiter.
The standard I am thinking of is the one used by ALPO GRS at the top (south at top) with festoons sweeping west (left) and pointing east (right)
Don't know how important it is to have a "standardised orientation" but from an aesthetic standpoint that's how I like it: south up, and festoons sweeping left to right.
But for the sake of voting and not taking a negative option I'll go option 1.
I think it depends on what kinda image you're getting. If its just a simple pic of the planet, then it doesnt really matter. But if you're trying to do something scientific with it, like tracking ovals/storms etc, then it would be best to have a standardized system for displaying them.
I'm certainly of the belief that a standard will help in simplifying the identification of features and comparison of images. I don't think it should be compulsory, but rather an (to use the politically correct terminology ) advisory standard. Man I sound just like a bureaucrat.
I also think each image would benefit from a UT timestamp. This is already done by some posters, but it may not have occured to those new to the imaging game how useful timestamps can be.
It would be good in a photographic forum to have all images with the same orientation for easy comparison...
with South at top and rotation going from right to left, festoons sweeping from left to right. Not sure if this is an official universal standard or just northerncentric chauvinism...
At least adopting this standard would make this forum more useful to amateurs worldwide,
Graeme
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Originally Posted by 1 ponders
I like the GRS at the top as well, but is there any sort of standard?
Are you guys for real????
Does it really matter which way up, or which way the festoons are going!
If I was going to use a 'Stanard' as you call it, I would have to suggest GRS at the bottom coz EVERY astronomy book I look at, the GRS is at the bottom! Images from Earth, from Pioneer spacecraft, Voyager spacecraft, Aust Sky & Tel mag, S&S mag, etc. etc. have GRS at the bottom.
And if you have a Standard on Joop, how about Saturn! Rings up or rings down?!!! All the publications I just checked show Saturn in both aspects.
Does it really matter. Can't we just enjoy looking at the pics instead of trying to Standardise evrything.
OKay I will add to this now. This forum is not a scientificaly driven forum, meaning that it's sole purpose is not the study of Jupiter or its dynamic system. There is no specific research going on to have the images made to be one way or the other. Having everyone turn their images inside out back to front is not what this forum is trying to do. If there was actual research done on the side of the forum like in a "scientific study of Jupiters dynamic atmosphere" thread, then the image posters would have to conform to the rules or guidelinesset out by the research group.
As for this forum,hope I am not speaking out here, Post whichever way you want, its about bettering yourself if your into imaging, and showing or entertaining people with the images you are producing .Lets not get carried away with things like this, next it will be which way should the moon be imaged.
Making rules and regulations of how an image is posted takes away the enjoyment of those of us less experienced to enjoy just imaging, and posting for the pleasure of being involved with a group of people who enjoy the night sky.
to us an image others might find "crap" we see as our best at that point of our experience.
Wow! I wasn't quite expecting such strong responses from this.
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Originally Posted by Astroman
This forum is not a scientificaly driven forum, meaning that it's sole purpose is not the study of Jupiter or its dynamic system.
I agree Andrew, but it doesn't mean that what we are doing is not science, or that valid scientific data can't be achieved from it. I am an amateur astronomer, that makes me by definition an amateur scientist.
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Originally Posted by Astroman
There is no specific research going on to have the images made to be one way or the other.
Once images are posted here we have no idea how those images might be viewed or used. I have used information gained from images from this site and elsewhere in my current Uni project. With permission and appropriate acknowledgements in the report.
There are many beautiful images posted on this site, there are also many images posted that would be of real scientific value, not just Jupiter images. If someone wanted to post an image that they felt could add to a scientific investigation at some time I believe it would be useful to them to know how to post their image in a way to be of the greatest benefit to others. This will not automatically take anything away from the beauty of the image, but it may add another dimension to the value of it.
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Originally Posted by ballaratdragons
Can't we just enjoy looking at the pics instead of trying to Standardise evrything.
It was never my intention to try to standardise anything Ken. I was simply asking the question what people thought of the idea and if it would be benificial to have some form of voluntary guidelines for posting if a person was interested.
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Originally Posted by leon
Making rules and regulations of how an image is posted takes away the enjoyment of those of us less experienced to enjoy just imaging,
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Originally Posted by 1ponders
I don't think it should be compulsory
No mention or rules or regulations was made Leon. To me part of the enjoyment of learning the art of imaging is learning how to best present the image. Not everyone will be interested in this aspect of imaging, and I have no arguement with that, but it doesn't mean if someone is interested they shouldn't be able to find out about it. And isn't this part of what the site is all about? Spreading information to those who are seeking it?
I voted 'Doesn't matter', simply because it doesn't.
For those that it does matter to, may I suggest that when you post your images, you stick to the standard.. To each his own..
Hope I haven't offended anyone, but you did ask... L.
I too couldn't give the rat's proverbial which way people post their jupiter images, but I appreciate being asked what my personal preference is.
I think a few people have over-reacted to an honest attempt to simply establish or discover what the norm is for the "correct" orientation of a jupiter image,
I never saw the question as a prelude to a new bunch of rules and regulations.
As to the subject, I voted ALPO standard and I'll continue to post mine using the ALPO standard, because my images are to be used for scientific analysis.
doesn't really bother me, so long as everyone does it the same as me ok
seriously though, I like the more casual approach - I found the more stringent and demanding criteria for presentation on Mars Observers, for example, a bit intimidating, though as a science site I understand why it's required there.
This has sorta been bugging me for a while now (see thread "Which way up for Jupiter") and I'd be interested to see if we can reach some sort of concensus on this issue.
The poll is: Is it important to have a standardized orientation for posting images of Jupiter.
The standard I am thinking of is the one used by ALPO GRS at the top (south at top) with festoons sweeping west (left) and pointing east (right)
What are your thoughts?
Time to leave the padded room Paul, your thinking too hard Just take them as they come, let your mind work it out what orientation you like.
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) advisory standard. 
Man I sound just like a bureaucrat. 
