U.S. 2012 Election: Obama Wins!

[04Stefan07 (Stefan)]

Obama wins, currently 303 to Democrats and 206 to Republican.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-11-0...4?WT.svl=news0

[TrevorW]

Honestly not surprised

[brian nordstrom (As avatar)]

I will take Obama over Romney any day , look at the state of the world's economy was in when Obama came to power 4 years ago ( The rich fled and left us holding the baby , so to speak ) , even after all this time without the " Bush's " , Romney would have dug us deeper into the mire finantially wise .
At least the Obama camp thinks of the people , and they have spoken ! YEA, ! , not the dollar,! people of the free world, I salute you .
Brian.

[iceman (Mike)]

Seriously? Some of the posts in this thread had to be deleted.

Keep it civil or just don't post.

[JB80 (Jarrod)]

Well, I don't suppose NASA is in any better shape than before which wasn't great, although with that said it's not worse off either like it could of been.
Shame really.

[brian nordstrom (As avatar)]

Brian survives , cool thanks Iceman .
But seriously ......
...you believe Obama's the better man for the job as well , dont ya ? along with the voting public of the USA . .
Brian.

Originally Posted by iceman

Seriously? Some of the posts in this thread had to be deleted.

Keep it civil or just don't post.

[Forgey (Paula)]

There is an article on Astro Watch about the election which says,

Romney or Obama? Election Result May Not Affect NASA Much.
The outcome of presidential election is unlikely to have a profound impact on the future direction of American spaceflight and exploration, experts say. While Republican candidate Mitt Romney has revealed few details about his space plans, a Romney Administration probably wouldn't dramatically alter the path NASA is currently pursuing under President Barack Obama, according to some observers. "There are unlikely, as a result of the election, to be seismic changes," said space policy expert John Logsdon, a professor emeritus at George Washington University.

You can read the whole story here:
http://astrowatchblog.blogspot.com.a...t-may-not.html

[trek1701 (Mark)]

I agree Mike; makes you wonder what the purpose of this thread was in the first place.

Originally Posted by iceman

Seriously? Some of the posts in this thread had to be deleted.

Keep it civil or just don't post.

[JB80 (Jarrod)]

Originally Posted by Forgey

There is an article on Astro Watch about the election which says,

Romney or Obama? Election Result May Not Affect NASA Much.
The outcome of presidential election is unlikely to have a profound impact on the future direction of American spaceflight and exploration, experts say. While Republican candidate Mitt Romney has revealed few details about his space plans, a Romney Administration probably wouldn't dramatically alter the path NASA is currently pursuing under President Barack Obama, according to some observers. "There are unlikely, as a result of the election, to be seismic changes," said space policy expert John Logsdon, a professor emeritus at George Washington University.

You can read the whole story here:
http://astrowatchblog.blogspot.com.a...t-may-not.html

Yeah, that's pretty much the same thing that was on space.com too.
It's a pity though the damage has already been done in the last term, both candidates were bad news for NASA really. The seismic changes had already been announced.

[Larryp (Laurie)]

Originally Posted by brian nordstrom

I will take Obama over Romney any day , look at the state of the world's economy was in when Obama came to power 4 years ago ( The rich fled and left us holding the baby , so to speak ) , even after all this time without the " Bush's " , Romney would have dug us deeper into the mire finantially wise .
At least the Obama camp thinks of the people , and they have spoken ! YEA, ! , not the dollar,! people of the free world, I salute you .
Brian.

The problem for many americans, Brian, is that Obama stands for big goverment. And the american people do not like the goverment controlling their lives-just look at the uproar when he introduced a very limited form of Medicare. Americans are by and large against their tax money being used to prop up people who do not contribute. Just ask my ex-wife, who is american.
Ronald Reagan tapped into the american psyche when he made his famous quote ( The most feared words in America are" I'm from the goverment and I'm here to help")

[brian nordstrom (As avatar)]

Will we see the 'Cola / Westpac " banners on the next generation of space flights ? this probably will be the only way its gonna happen , using NASA's expertise in these things . .
There are a lot of experienced people out there worried , as you guys say .
The way of the future , sorry to say .
USA 's gotta sort its Health / Poor / Housing / Enviroment / Military , ( eg. people ) ... the list goes on and on and on first .
Brian.

[astroron (Ron)]

Originally Posted by Larryp

The problem for many americans, Brian, is that Obama stands for big goverment. And the american people do not like the goverment controlling their lives-just look at the uproar when he introduced a very limited form of Medicare. Americans are by and large against their tax money being used to prop up people who do not contribute. Just ask my ex-wife, who is american.
Ronald Reagan tapped into the american psyche when he made his famous quote ( The most feared words in America are" I'm from the goverment and I'm here to help")

As was remarked on the election coverage this morning, they don't want government to interfere with their lives until something like Sandy comes along, then they say where is the government
Without large government you don't have the resources to combat such disasters.
The GFC was coursed by lack of government control.
The American public has been brainwashed by the anti socialist/ Communist rhetoric of the republican party.

[brian nordstrom (As avatar)]

I hear you Larry , but when you have a budget of $4 trillion , you cant just give it to people , I live up here in the NT and this happens with the Indiginous ( mining royalties ) and the shambles they are in is sad to see . they want to , (as your wife says) run their own lives.
All I am saying is the money should be used for the good of all not just the rich!!! thats Capitlisim . . This dont work for all ,a proven fact , then human greed sets in ... on and on .. .
They ( capitilists ) have had the run in USA for way to long before Obama and sad to say people have been brain washed into beleiving throwing money at the problem, cures it , its happening here in OZ as well mate .
I hear you , but the best man for this BIG ! job won .
Brian.

Originally Posted by Larryp

The problem for many americans, Brian, is that Obama stands for big goverment. And the american people do not like the goverment controlling their lives-just look at the uproar when he introduced a very limited form of Medicare. Americans are by and large against their tax money being used to prop up people who do not contribute. Just ask my ex-wife, who is american.
Ronald Reagan tapped into the american psyche when he made his famous quote ( The most feared words in America are" I'm from the goverment and I'm here to help")

[Colin_Fraser]

Close result. Boils down to Obama won but 48% of the people don't want him

[Larryp (Laurie)]

Brian, the thing that made America the world's economic powerhouse was small goverment and lack of interference in business-unlike us. I can remember reading in The Financial Review back in 1985, that 41% of our tax paying workforce worked in goverment/para-goverment administrative jobs compared to 21% in the USA. These people do not generate any wealth for a country, and the more you can reduce the number of public servants and employ people in manufacturing/service jobs the better. I have no idea what the comparison figures are now, but I imagine they are worse.
Its no good saying get rid of the capitalists, because its the capitalists who provide jobs. People who start up businesses should be encouraged by goverment-not hounded by a pile of rules and regulations which cost heaps of money to comply with, as they are here.
USA's financial problems were not caused by capitalists anyway, but by a dodgy banking/financial system. Just look at the big companies they took down with them-General Motors for instance.
This started with the Clinton presidency, when lending institutions were encouraged to lend money for housing to people who had no way to repay it. This led to more and more creative financial rubbish to try to hide the bad loans and as you know, brought the whole world down.
And I didn't say you should just give people money-quite the opposite.

[brian nordstrom (As avatar)]

Unemployed 7% ? , more millioneers /capitar than any where else in the world ( except Iran ) come on the USA has already had it fair shair or white collar criminals bailed out by the 'Bush/
Romney' administration to the tune of $100's of Billions , its a rich boys club and as me and others are saying here , Brain washing works( just ask the average american ) .
The best man WON !, we will discuss this again in 2016 , and Larry I look forward to it mate , your darling is welcome too .
.
Brian.

Originally Posted by Larryp

Brian, the thing that made America the world's economic powerhouse was small goverment and lack of interference in business-unlike us. I can remember reading in The Financial Review back in 1985, that 41% of our tax paying workforce worked in goverment/para-goverment administrative jobs compared to 21% in the USA. These people do not generate any wealth for a country, and the more you can reduce the number of public servants and employ people in manufacturing/service jobs the better. I have no idea what the comparison figures are now, but I imagine they are worse.

[brian nordstrom (As avatar)]

Gotta love Democracy. , thats why we are " Living in a free World ".
( PS. our political system we have here in Australia aint Democracy )
Brian.

Originally Posted by Colin_Fraser

Close result. Boils down to Obama won but 48% of the people don't want him

[Larryp (Laurie)]

Originally Posted by brian nordstrom

Unemployed 7% ? , more millioneers /capitar than any where else in the world ( except Iran ) come on the USA has already had it fair shair or white collar criminals bailed out by the 'Bush/
Romney' administration to the tune of $100's of Billions , its a rich boys club and as me and others are saying here , Brain washing works( just ask the average american ) .
The best man WON !, we will discuss this again in 2016 , and Larry I look forward to it mate , your darling is welcome too .
.
Brian.

Brian, I have edited this post since your reply, and I would ask you how many people would have a job if it wasn't for capitalists

[brian nordstrom (As avatar)]

Every " Hunter Gatherer " out there ?
Serfdom , Larry aint my cup of TEA as the English say .
Brian.

Originally Posted by Larryp

Brian, I have edited this post since your reply, and I would ask you how many people would have a job if it wasn't for capitalists

[Larryp (Laurie)]

Originally Posted by brian nordstrom

Every " Hunter Gatherer " out there ?
Serfdom , Larry aint my cup of TEA as the English say .
Brian.

I have no idea what you mean, but I think we should agree to disagree and leave it at that