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Old 25-01-2011, 03:04 PM
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Advice for Coonabarabran trip please.

I'm thinking of heading down to Coonabarabran sometime this week as based on the weather reports its looking like it's clear the whole week. It will be the first time I head down there (if I do end up going down).

I would appreciate any feedback for the following questions:

1) What are some good places to stay at? Doesn't have to be cheap or 5 star but something reasonable.

2) Any specific places recommended for setting up and observing?

3) Any particular route I should take when driving down there?

Any other advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys
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Old 25-01-2011, 03:15 PM
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Hi M,

I think you mean heading up to Coona, not heading down.

Anyway, you know you must be arriving at the right place when you see the
big sign that says "Coonabarabran. Astronomical Capital of Australia".
And they are not wrong. This is amateur astronomy nirvana.

The place to stay is the Warrumbungles Mountain Motel, about 15 minutes out
of Coona on the road out to the Warrumbungles.
See http://www.warrumbungle.com/
They have acres of fields, understand the requirements of amateurs and can advise you where
to set up so you will experience no light spill. The skies there are better than excellent.
What is good about this place is the amenity of being able to duck back into your room
through the back door that opens out onto the field for a coffee. Family members are
also then comfotable if they don't observe. TV reception is not the best but the motel
provides WiFi. Rooms nearer the office get better WiFi reception. Handy to check
on the weather.

This is where we have been hosting visiting Northern Hemisphere observers, often
up to a couple of dozen at a time, so it is an area we have spent a lot of time and
have considerable experience with. We then book out the whole place.

15 minutes back in town, there is a new supermarket and you can either
cook in your motel room or I prefer dinner in the pub. The Imperial Hotel
serves great steaks starting at about 6pm. There is also a Chinese restaurant
in town, fish and chips, the Bowling Club, numerous cafes, a bakery, pizza and
a Subway.

Since I live in the far north of Sydney, I prefer the northern route which goes
up the F3, takes the exit through to Mangrove Mountain through Wollembi
then via the Golden Hwy to Merriwa, Coolah, Binnaway. If you live in the west, you might
prefer the Mudgee, Dunedoo route. (Watch out for police RADAR at Dunedoo
as many of our visitors have been caught.) I really like the northern route. It
is more scenic, quieter and I actually enjoy the initial winding stretch of the Great Northern
Road north of Wollembi even though it is not to everyone's taste. This is the route
that most of the workers from the AAO take when they come up from Epping to Sidings Springs.

Finally and most importantly, be very very very careful driving particularly
around sunset, night and sunrise around Coona. The stretch of road from the
motel back into town is only 15 minutes and gazetted at 80km/h but if you
go into town for dinner and come back doing the 80km/h, it is asking for trouble
and you will likely hit something, such as a large roo or emu. Everyone that works at the
observatory has hit something, cars written off and people killed. As you get nearer the
Warrumbungles National Park and in particular into the Park itself, wildlife is abundant so stay vigilant.
If you drive up to Coona at night, particularly in the stretch from Coolah to Coona, have your eyes
wide open and be prepared to hit the anchors. It is a 6 hour drive from my location and
I avoid the night drive.

Be sure to visit the AAT. The trip to see the Compact Array at Narrabri is also really worth it.
A day walk up to the Grand High Tops in the National Park is unforgettable but take twice the amount
of water that you would think you would need. Not hard to consume 3 lites per person on days like today
on the walk up and back and you will still come back thirsty. The Motel has a pool which
is then a great way to cool off after an all day hike.

Enjoy the trip!

Best Regards

Gary

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Old 25-01-2011, 03:44 PM
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All great advice from Gary, Moh.

We stayed at the Warrumbungles Mountain Motel when we went on our MAS trip late last year and it was very close to the AAO. They were looking at an ownership change back then, so I don't know where that leaves you - most probably OK of course. Out the back of the motel (creek side) you will find acres of lawn - setup furthest away from the room lights and you'll be in great shape.

The Chinese restaurant in town was, quite frankly, sensational. It actually pulls up well next to some of the better-known restaurants along Dixon Street.

Here are some people you might recognise enjoying dinner in that very Chinese restaurant Moh...
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Old 25-01-2011, 03:52 PM
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They were looking at an ownership change back then, so I don't know where that leaves you - most probably OK of course.
G'day Chris,

They have been trying to sell but the market has been soft so it is in the same
hands.

M, if you mention to the owners, Sarah and Michael, that the motel was recommended by Gary
who is one of the 3RF volunteers that help host the Texans, they will know exactly
what you need. 3RF book out the entire place a week at a time and we will be up
there again in a few months time.

The separate field that is west of the dining room is the best place to setup when other non-astronomers are
staying to avoid any lights from rooms. When 3RF book the place, the owners black out all the lights for us.
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Old 25-01-2011, 03:56 PM
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Thank you Gary for that wonderful advice Exactly what I was looking for. Yes I should have stated heading up

I just had a look at the website and the prices are very cheap. Sounds like the Northern route is the way to go for me as I'd prefer a scenic tour. Point taken regarding wildlife I'll be extra careful and drive at 50km/h.

Chris I plan to take some widefield milkyway shots as well. I've just purchased a remote for my 40d so will attempt a timelapse video, see how I go
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Old 25-01-2011, 03:58 PM
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M, if you mention to the owners, Sarah and Michael, that the motel was recommended by Gary
who is one of the 3RF volunteers that help host the Texans, they will know exactly
what you need. 3RF book out the entire place a week at a time and we will be up
there again in a few months time.

The separate field that is west of the dining room is the best place to setup when other non-astronomers are
staying to avoid any lights from rooms. When 3RF book the place, the owners clack out all the lights for us.
I'll definitely mention it, thanks Gary
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Old 25-01-2011, 09:26 PM
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The Chinese restaurant in town was, quite frankly, sensational. It actually pulls up well next to some of the better-known restaurants along Dixon Street.
I'll second that. The night we were there it was close to full, and the way the staff were chatting with customers there must have been lots of locals. Always a good sign.

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Old 26-01-2011, 09:15 PM
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How are the mozzies at Coona? Any recommended insect repellent ?
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Old 26-01-2011, 09:27 PM
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Hi M,

Another option accommodation-wise is the Timor Country Cottages, which is another 5 mins up the Timor Road in the direction of the National Park, from the Warrumbungles Mountain Motel. Do a google search, and you will find all the info you need. It has a fully functioning kitchen, three bedrooms, a slow combustion fire to use in winter etc.

I have never seen better skies than at Coona. I have tried to get there every year since getting seriously into astronomy, nothing compares!
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I am so envious...Please enjoy the treasure of dark skies.
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Old 28-01-2011, 09:06 AM
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Just wanted to put in an extra plug for the Warrumbungles Motel, were it required; we stayed there after IISAC last year and loved it. We took the scopes out to one of the back paddocks - I think it's officially the third hole of the golf course or something! - and had brilliantly dark skies. And we just ate in our room; the kitchenette bit had a microwave and hot plates, from memory.

The other thing to keep an eye out for is the to-scale solar system that leads to the AAO! My understanding is that it's along each of the main roads leading to Coona, and then they all join up on the final leg from the town to the telescopes...
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Old 28-01-2011, 07:13 PM
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I've made my booking at Warrumbungles Mountain Motel and have just fitted my new Argo encoders onto my Skywatcher dob and ready for it's first light

I've printed out numerous observing lists from Skytools, over a 1000 objects to check off I know bit ambitious, but you gotta aim high

I'll report back here how things go, hoping for no clouds. Bon voyage
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Old 01-02-2011, 07:30 PM
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I've finally returned from Coonabarabran, and what a fantastic place it is! When you can see the milkyway stretching right over the horizon and 47tuc clearly observable with the naked eye, you know your at dark skies The hype is well justified.

The Warrumbungle Mountain Motel far exceeded my expectations. It was dirt cheap for such a great place and the beds were very comfortable! It's location is perfect as well been right in the middle of town and Siding Spring Observatory/National Park. The backyard was very convenient for setting up to observe.

I'll definitely be making a trip here every season. Thanks guys for the advice and recommendations
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M,

I am glad it worked out so well for you. Maybe I will see you up there sometime?!

BTW, 47Tuc is pretty easy to see naked eye from outer suburbia. I saw it naked eye from my backyard on the central coast last night - in fact I lined it up through my Telrad to then observe it through the EP.
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Hi M,

Thank you for the post and also for the kind email you sent.

Great to hear you are, as you put it, "one happy trooper"!

It really is a great place and a convenient place to observe from.
What is also encouraging from your photos is that -
a) you got some blue skies and some clear nights.
b) you got out and about including up to the AAT and out to the Park.

There is certainly a lot to see and do there and by now you would have seen
how many private observatories there are just going out along the road
from town out to Sidings Springs. It really is the Astronomical Capital of
Australia.

Like Rod said, hope to see you up there some time!

Best Regards

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Thinking about a trip up there too.

When staying at the Warrumbungles Mountain Motel, is it better to stay in a motel room or a cabin? Do they all back on to the observing area?

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Thinking about a trip up there too.

When staying at the Warrumbungles Mountain Motel, is it better to stay in a motel room or a cabin? Do they all back on to the observing area?

Thanks,
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Hi Jason,

All rooms back onto the expansive observing area. Some of the rooms just
have a double bed or two. Others have double beds and four additional solid bunks
that could accommodate a family or a group of observing friends in their own
mini-dormitory. There is little distinction between the interiors
their general amenity and the rooms are all in a linear row, each
sharing a common wall with its immediate neighbor. There are no standalone
'cabins' in the traditional sense of the word so I believe they will be referring to
the rooms that have the additional bunks.

I would recommend requesting a room that does not adjoin the self-service
laundry. The place is generally very quiet most of the time but the interminable
chatter of a couple of your fellow lodgers early in the morning outside your
room whilst they wait for the spin cycle to finish does not help with catching up on
one's sleep after doring an all-nighter.

WiFi reception from within the room is more reliable for those rooms closer to the office.

In the middle of nearly all the rooms is a kitchen table which is a great place to
sort out eyepieces and observing books in preparation for the night's observing run.

I recollect all but one room has its own kitchen and there is also outdoor
BBQ's available. The modern, new Woolworths in Coona is only 15 minutes
away and you can come back and cook your own steak and onions on the
BBQ whilst watching the sun come down over the observing field as the wallabies
graze. For those who prefer someone else doing the cooking, the pub across
the road from Woolworths does good pub food kicking off at about 6pm.

The Mountains Motel is also a popular spot for bird watching and a pair of binoculars
will reveal a host of species after only a short scan around the grounds and surrounding
trees.

The Mountains Motel is a basic, family run motel. If coming up with family, recommend
bring a laptop with some DVD's for the evening, as the analog TV reception only provides
two or three snowy channels on a small screen. The Motel has a small swimming pool.

As Rod previously mentioned, 5 minutes up the road on the right hand side are the Timor
Country Cottages. See http://coonabarabran.com/timor/
The description of "Cottages" (plural) is true in that there are two self-contained cottages.
However, for the last few years, one of the two cottages has become the residence of the
daughter of the owner and her family, so only one of the two cottages has been available
for rent. The Timor Country Cottages use to be our accommodation of choice when we had
parties the size that could be comfortably accommodated in the two cottages. However,
as the typical size of the groups we now help host grew and the number of available
cottages dropped down to one, we could no longer comfortably accommodate everyone there.
So in more recent years, when we have larger groups coming down from North America, we will
book the entire Mountains Motel for the week where there are a lot more beds and rooms.
Last year, an IceInSpace member made a booking at the Timor Country Cottages but
was dismayed when the owners canceled the booking on relatively short notice.

Best Regards

Gary
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Great, thanks for the detailed info Gary, much appreciated.

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You are nothing if not detailed, Gary!

The Timor Country Cottages story sounds familiar......if you are thinking of me, then my experience was that the price was mysteriously doubled from about $600 to about $1200 after I had secured the booking many months previously for a set price. I was very unhappy....and opted to cancel and go to Wee Jasper instead. My theory is that a cashed up Yankee may have shown interest, and I was effectively gazumped. A shame, it is a superb spot.

Another place to stay in Coona is Craggibungle, which is another few kms up the Timor Road towards the National Park beyond Timor Country Cottages. It is a mud hut, no electricity, and is not well situated for observing in that the hut is set amongst trees. However, you can set up down the hill, about 150m from the house, and get wonderful views of the northern sky.
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Sorry, one more question....

At Warrumbungle Mountain Motel, can you get your vehicle on to the observing area to unload gear etc?

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