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Old 19-04-2008, 01:30 AM
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GSO dob mirror coating

Hi All,

I've got an 8" GSO dob and a while back got a drip of water on the mirror. At the time I didn't realize how easy it was to take the primary cell out, so although concerned, I just left it - hoping it would eventually evaporate away with no problem.

After a while I noticed that there was still a mark where the water droplet had been (2 in fact - as the drop had "splashed"). I still thought it was probably just some dirt or residue left behind - but the mirror had gotten a bit dirty (some dust and bug grime) so decided to clean it...

Well turned out that the mark where the water had been - had cleaned the silver right off the glass. Once I got the mirror out I could see there were actually lots of other tiny "splashes" as well where the silver was "gone"...

Its not a large percentage of the mirror surface (~1%) but still I was disappointed. I guess there must have been some acidity in the water that reacted with the coating? I was under the impression that there was a protective coating over the mirror (silver) finish - so didn't think that would happen so easily!!!

I cleaned the mirror as per instructions here - using just a drop of detergent in luke warm water etc - very carefully & gently - with just a very light dab using some cotton stuff from the chemist. It actually didn't clean all of the grime off - but much better, and I didn't want to risk any further damage to the surface.

After the mirror dried I noticed that around the edges of the mirror - the silver seemed to be slightly "dimmer". Not particularly noticeable, but detectable if you looked closely. So it seems that even my very careful cleaning process may have "dulled" the mirror finish slightly on the edges. Its not a huge issue and the scope still seems to function quite well - but it does concern me that if I need to clean the mirror again - will it become 'more dull'??

Curious to know if anyone else has come across similar, or any comments, etc. I take it there's no point trying to get the glass re-mirrored as it just wouldn't be worth the cost. Just wonder whether my mirror had less coating on it or something?

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Nick.
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Old 19-04-2008, 05:15 PM
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Hi Nick, with such a small percentage of area it might not be worth getting it re-coated, but if you decide to do it there are a few places that do it.
Two that I can think of are Francis Lord Optics and Chi Qin Co. or Advanced Optical Components, but their website has gone so dunno whats going on there.

The coating on your mirror is actually Aluminium, its easier(and cheaper) to do than silvering and lasts much longer, even when not overcoated.
Aluminium oxidises very quickly and forms a very thin protective coating of its own, sort-of like a thin natural Anodising, but it's not as protective as a proper protective coating.
Aluminium reacts violently with anything alkaline and also with some acids(like sulfuric, used to give that 'Matt' finish on anodised parts).

The thin edges of your mirror might be due to the coating process. But I would be surprised if it is.
Coating is done in a vacuum chamber, some very pure Aluminium wire is heated to melting point where it boils off into a vapour in the vacuum and then settles onto the mirror surface. The thickness of the coating varies depending on where the alum wire(s) are placed in the chamber. Sounds like yours might have been done with a single vapouriser directly above the mirror. Thinner coatings can look grey-ish rather than silver.
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:51 PM
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Francis Lord Optics are still in business, and still going strong after 66 years!!
Our new email address is sales@francislordoptics.com.au and our phone numbers are 02 9873 2902 or 0422 636 309.
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