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Old 24-09-2011, 08:28 AM
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First Light QHY10 OSC

This is the first image taken with my new QHY10 OSC camera. A very quick exposure to see what it can do. A total exposure of 70 minutes of M20 taken last night through my Tak TSA 120 at F7.5.

I have bought another OSC to use during the short summer nights when with work and family committments I just don't get enough time to produce an image with the mono camera.

This image is a crop but one thing evident with this slightly larger CCD is that I will have to get the field flattener up and working with this scope.

Thanks for looking. Your comments are very welcomed.

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Old 24-09-2011, 08:42 AM
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Very nice image Doug, I cannot fault it in any way. If I ever progress from the DSLR, a OSC CCD will be my choice also because of limited time with work and other commitments. All the best.
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Old 24-09-2011, 09:33 AM
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Great detail. And so mucher quicker and easier than mono lrgb work.
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Old 24-09-2011, 09:42 AM
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Looks great Doug.
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Old 24-09-2011, 10:24 AM
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Hi Doug

Great image, colour balance looks nigh on perfect on my monitor. I run a TSA120 with a ST4000 and dont seem to need a flattener. Are you sure something is not slightly out of square? The stars in the corners look slightly elongated but the direction appears consistent in all four corners? Of course there may be scope to scope variations as well

Please keep in mind I'm no great expert on these things.

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Old 24-09-2011, 12:17 PM
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yep, looks the goods mate!

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Old 24-09-2011, 12:29 PM
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Good looking first light Doug
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Old 24-09-2011, 01:07 PM
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Aint it just the way, I move on to a mono hoping for better detail.... And you go putting this up from a OSC . You make it all look too easy Doug.
Lovely resolution, colors are great.
I can sure understand the logic of a OSC particularly here in Victoria where clear nights are at a premium, you have to make the most of what time is available.
As long as we all enjoy, that's what counts, and it looks like you will have a ball.
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Old 24-09-2011, 02:13 PM
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Looks very nice, Doug! I see a bit of the same bright star bloat that my QHY-12 produces, but it's not too bad. Certainly better than getting only a handful of mono frames before the clouds close in...

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Old 24-09-2011, 02:32 PM
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Nice image, Doug. Looks like the little QHY10 is going to perform really well
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Old 24-09-2011, 03:51 PM
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love it Doug - i still have my qhy10 BNIB unopened as i have it to use with the C11 hyperstar i have. I must get it out to use as i have had it now for nearly a year
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Old 24-09-2011, 03:55 PM
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What software you using to acquire and process images from your qhy10?
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Old 24-09-2011, 04:09 PM
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Very nice image Doug, I cannot fault it in any way. If I ever progress from the DSLR, a OSC CCD will be my choice also because of limited time with work and other commitments. All the best.
Thanks Lester. It is certainly much quicker than the mono camera for capturing a reasonable image. In fact I sometimes think the only real difference is a little bit of resolution.

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Great detail. And so mucher quicker and easier than mono lrgb work.
Thanks Paul

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Looks great Doug.
Thanks Louie

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Hi Doug

Great image, colour balance looks nigh on perfect on my monitor. I run a TSA120 with a ST4000 and dont seem to need a flattener. Are you sure something is not slightly out of square? The stars in the corners look slightly elongated but the direction appears consistent in all four corners? Of course there may be scope to scope variations as well

Please keep in mind I'm no great expert on these things.

Cheers

Lars
Thanks Lars. The difference in the full frame is quite evident. Fitting the 35 flattener in a screwed together setup will take some work.

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Good looking first light Doug
Thanks Marty

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Aint it just the way, I move on to a mono hoping for better detail.... And you go putting this up from a OSC . You make it all look too easy Doug.
Lovely resolution, colors are great.
I can sure understand the logic of a OSC particularly here in Victoria where clear nights are at a premium, you have to make the most of what time is available.
As long as we all enjoy, that's what counts, and it looks like you will have a ball.
Clive it is a bit of a battle working out which way to turn but I am sure with time I will use and combine both cameras.

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Looks very nice, Doug! I see a bit of the same bright star bloat that my QHY-12 produces, but it's not too bad. Certainly better than getting only a handful of mono frames before the clouds close in...

Cheers,
Rick.
Thanks Rick. If only we could control the weather. Maybe we can put a tax on clouds and they will go away.

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Nice image, Doug. Looks like the little QHY10 is going to perform really well
Thanks Carl

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love it Doug - i still have my qhy10 BNIB unopened as i have it to use with the C11 hyperstar i have. I must get it out to use as i have had it now for nearly a year
Thanks David, be brave and get it out of the box.

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What software you using to acquire and process images from your qhy10?
Thanks Chris. Software: I capture with MaximDL, align,combine and calibrate in ImagesPlus and final processing done in Photoshop. I must give CCDStack a go with the OSC.
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Old 25-09-2011, 11:19 AM
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Thanks Chris. Software: I capture with MaximDL, align,combine and calibrate in ImagesPlus and final processing done in Photoshop. I must give CCDStack a go with the OSC.

Hi Doug I have just gone through the process of using CCDStack with my QHY10 and I used the OSC chapter from Adam Block's "making every pixel count" CCDStack disk. His premis is that using the OSC for easier "aquisition" but then debayering into seperate R,G & B and creating a L produces better results. I've tried it and it does work. It also allows you to correct any colour imbalance in the RGB matrix. I found that sometimes the QHY10 was a bit "shy" in the blue so this process allows it to be corrected at the source.

Love the M20, If I can chase the clouds away I might actually get a first light with my GSO RC10 and see how the QHY10 comes out with that.

All the Best

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Old 25-09-2011, 01:33 PM
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Good stuff. Have you tried to combine the QHY10 colour with a LUM from the 9?
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This looks great Doug...!
Certainly beats messing with filters...
Now one night you'll be getting a colour image you can use.
The next if need be, you can collect mono for lum with your qhy9..

I know a few other imagers that go this route ..

Or even have two scopes, your two ccds and a mount to take them and you'd be getting everything in one hit!

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Old 25-09-2011, 05:59 PM
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Hi Doug I have just gone through the process of using CCDStack with my QHY10 and I used the OSC chapter from Adam Block's "making every pixel count" CCDStack disk. His premis is that using the OSC for easier "aquisition" but then debayering into seperate R,G & B and creating a L produces better results. I've tried it and it does work. It also allows you to correct any colour imbalance in the RGB matrix. I found that sometimes the QHY10 was a bit "shy" in the blue so this process allows it to be corrected at the source.

Love the M20, If I can chase the clouds away I might actually get a first light with my GSO RC10 and see how the QHY10 comes out with that.

All the Best

Paul
Thanks Paul, I just reprocessed this using CCDStack and maintain that IP does just as good a job at this stage,. I will have to try a bit more work on this but as it stands at the moment IP will do me.

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Good stuff. Have you tried to combine the QHY10 colour with a LUM from the 9?
Thanks Mark, I haven't tried this yet but will need to use Registar when I finally get around to trying this.

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This looks great Doug...!
Certainly beats messing with filters...
Now one night you'll be getting a colour image you can use.
The next if need be, you can collect mono for lum with your qhy9..

I know a few other imagers that go this route ..

Or even have two scopes, your two ccds and a mount to take them and you'd be getting everything in one hit!

Rich
Thanks Rich, Interesting thought but I only run the one mount with one scope on it at a time. Maybe down the track I will either upgrade the mount or get another which would be easier for me in the long term.
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Old 25-09-2011, 06:14 PM
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Thanks Mark, I haven't tried this yet but will need to use Registar when I finally get around to trying this.
You can use CCD Stack for that. Debayer all your subs to separate channels then stack all the subs to the lum. When you do your color combine everything will be aligned. Use the CCDIS star pattern matching algo as it supports different image scale. The default star match works only with subs that have the same image scale.
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Good stuff Doug. Looking at purchasing that camera myself.
I've got RickS's qhy12 on loan atm, and had all sorts of dramas with the capture software. Using Maxim and EZcap.
Maybe I should persevere, ummmm, Rick, when do you want your camera back?
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Good stuff Doug. Looking at purchasing that camera myself.
I've got RickS's qhy12 on loan atm, and had all sorts of dramas with the capture software. Using Maxim and EZcap.
Maybe I should persevere, ummmm, Rick, when do you want your camera back?
Jeanette,

I gave up on EZcap, but Maxim was working well for me on the QHY-12.

No rush to return the camera. I'm happy with my SX mono for now. I'm planning to use the QHY-12 for wide field work with camera lenses but I haven't picked up the adapters and stuff I'll need yet...

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