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Old 01-08-2011, 07:34 PM
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Carbon Footprint Fiasco

The WA State Government has announced this morning it will immediately halt new applications to its popular solar panel subsidy scheme.


A day after he told The West Australian the scheme was being "monitored" amid fears from the industry a Government imposed capacity cap of 150MW was close to being hit, Energy Minister Peter Collier today confirmed the cap had been breached and the solar feed in tariff scheme would be immediately axed.
Mr Collier said he would make further announcements about the scheme "in the near future" but he did not go into details.
The solar industry feared the cap could be breached within weeks, but in fact it has been exceeded even sooner.
It appears a rush of applications to the scheme in June ahead of a July 1 deadline for the tariff rate being cut from 40c to 20c is responsible for the early demise of the program.
The move comes after the scheme has already been slashed twice.
Originally the Government wanted to pay households a 60¢ gross tariff for every kilowatt hour their systems produced, regardless of their own power consumption.
The axing will not affect existing customers who applied to the scheme at the 40¢ or 20¢ rates.
When Mr Collier announced the latest tariff cut, he also said the program would be capped at 150MW of total capacity.
The solar industry believes that cap could be reached by September.
Yesterday, Mr Collier said the scheme had been "phenomenally successful" but "we can't keep writing out cheques to the energy industry".
Even without the rebates, households would pay off the cost of a solar system within 10 years through energy savings, he said.
Figures published by the Office of Energy reveal that at the end of May, total approved capacity was about 110MW. Installations are growing at a rate of more than 5000 systems a month.
Shadow energy minister Kate Doust said the Government, which campaigned at the last election on a 60¢ gross tariff, was "laughing in the face" of an election promise.
"It is truly perverse that a Government would wind up a scheme, purely on the grounds that it has been too successful," she said.
Sustainable Energy Association chief Ray Wills predicted the inequity would start to cause political problems for the Government.
"If a whole pile of people in a particular electorate are told that their neighbours are being paid for the solar panels on their roof, but they won't be, I think that will create problems," he said.
My Solar manager Nikki Carter said the ever-changing rules made it very difficult to plan and run the business.
"We don't want a handout, we just want a level playing field," she said.


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Old 01-08-2011, 07:47 PM
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Well everything this governement has subsidied or implemented has eventually come to bite us back in the arse. My daughter started yr7. Remember this laptop scheme at school? Well because the government had now pulled out of the fundings we are left with the bill to pay. It's a lease so the notebook costs $200 per quarter. I went to school and said what about I buy one for $500.00 and you keep yours. They said no. You have to go on with the program. Not an option. By the time she's finished yr 12 I'll have spent $7k on it. That is what I call a blatant rip off.
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Old 01-08-2011, 07:58 PM
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Old 01-08-2011, 08:24 PM
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I'd tell them what they could do with their laptop if Iwas you Marc, just don't pay it IMO

This is ludicrous it appears there is no longer an incentive in this state to purchase a solar system and yet the Federal Govt says we should all endeavour to reduce our carbon footprint.

150mw cap that just saved the Govt $200million building a new 100mw coal fired power plant
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Well everything this governement has subsidied or implemented has eventually come to bite us back in the arse. My daughter started yr7. Remember this laptop scheme at school? Well because the government had now pulled out of the fundings we are left with the bill to pay. It's a lease so the notebook costs $200 per quarter. I went to school and said what about I buy one for $500.00 and you keep yours. They said no. You have to go on with the program. Not an option. By the time she's finished yr 12 I'll have spent $7k on it. That is what I call a blatant rip off.
Well, the Solar scheme is a WA state government (Liberal), the laptop one is the feds (Labour), so it doesn't matter which brand of poison you take.

In response to the lease, did you sign the lease? If not, you're not responsible. My kids' school also has laptops, and after Yr9 you can use whatever you want, so my eldest has a cast off Macbook of mine, which I replaced using salary scrifice, but the youngest has a school supplied tablet, which did cost the Earth. The lease only goes for three years, after that they ask you to replace the laptop, but as they aren't using propriety software anymore you just need a general purpose laptop. The schools IT solution to ANY problem was to reimage the laptop, if it's a Mac they can't (infact if it's just another brand/model of PC they can't), I can do that at home, I don't need to pay someone to do that for me. Some people do though and it's worthwhile having the support. YMMV.

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Well, the Solar scheme is a WA state government (Liberal), the laptop one is the feds (Labour), so it doesn't matter which brand of poison you take.

In response to the lease, did you sign the lease? If not, you're not responsible. My kids' school also has laptops, and after Yr9 you can use whatever you want, so my eldest has a cast off Macbook of mine, which I replaced using salary scrifice, but the youngest has a school supplied tablet, which did cost the Earth. The lease only goes for three years, after that they ask you to replace the laptop, but as they aren't using propriety software anymore you just need a general purpose laptop. The schools IT solution to ANY problem was to reimage the laptop, if it's a Mac they can't (infact if it's just another brand/model of PC they can't), I can do that at home, I don't need to pay someone to do that for me. Some people do though and it's worthwhile having the support. YMMV.

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Fair enough. No I didn't sign. I still have to pay though or the kid's out of school.
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Fair enough. No I didn't sign. I still have to pay though or the kid's out of school.


Really? I don't remember anything about my son being kicked out if I didn't sign a lease form.
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Really? I don't remember anything about my son being kicked out if I didn't sign a lease form.
You don't sign a lease form. You sign a form saying you are responsible for the notepad. If it is damaged in any way you have to replace the hardware + software at your own cost then keep paying for a new one. The school lease is with HP passed on to the students now the gvt pulled out. So we're left with their mess to clean up. My problem is that there is no option but to pay for the school notepad rather than buying your own outright. My boy is in yr 12 preparing for the HSC. He missed that notepad non sense. I have no intention of making any waves or complain and jeopardize his tests. When he's out I'll decide what to do.
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Just hand the thing back in and say you can get your own - even Hardly Normal won't charge that much.
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Just hand the thing back in and say you can get your own - even Hardly Normal won't charge that much.
I did. No deal. Anyway sorry Trev I'm off topic again. I'll shut up now
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