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Old 14-11-2010, 02:17 PM
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Samsung 3DTV

Got one sweet deal from JB HI-FI last Thursday; a 55" Plasma 3D TV with a 3D bluray. You can redeem the docket to Samsung and they send you an extra 22" TV (LED this time) + 4x Extra 3D glasses and 4x3D bluray titles. The whole deal is $1.7k and will go until end of November. The TV is absolutely gorgeous.

The 3D, which I was somehow skeptical about is actually too good to be true. And because it's a plasma screen the refresh rate allows you to get fullres side by side for each eye which is 1920px wide. In contrast an LCD or LED will only deliver much lower resolution propably down to PAL standard which 700px wide or so for each eye. Ironicaly 3D LCD/LED TV screens within the same size range are priced at $6k+.

Having said that plasma technology requires more care and attention. You need to break in the screen as to avoid permanent burnout. I have another older LG plasma screen I bought back in 2003 and it's still working fine. Just need to be aware of it, that's all. Don't run anything in box modes or games with static overlay for the first 100 hours of use, then you're good to go. 3D will actually blur the picture so that will help not burn the screen as there is nothing sharp on screen. The polarised glasses do the work. They are very light and use one CR2025 lithium cell. They are wireless with a sensor on the frame between the eyes. Comfortable too. Nothing like the cardboard boxes 'a la Dame Edna' they give you in IMAX theatres.

Now this TV has a lot of other features which I'm still to explore. USB connectivity, wireless (WAP2), Internet TV as a result, the list goes on.

Also a very neat feature which will convert 2D->3D tv for normal broadcast and all other 2D DVDs you may have. I don't know how it does it but the picture still looks s||thot. Not true 3D as a purist would say but I can't tell much difference TBH. It looks real good.

Then you have a bunch of other 3D types as well, interlaced, side by side horizontal, vertical, etc... No flickering at all. You have to bring the cell setting to the minimum though as the light is boosted right up when you switch to 3D mode to compensate for the potential loss of illumination. Actually the 3D mode made the screen far too bright for me so I got the cell setting righ down but I guess it's just personal preference. Keep the cell to the maximum default at 20 and the screen will get very very hot to the point you won't keep your hand on the front glass when running in 3D mode. Set it to 5 and everything will run cool for hours. I reckon a few screens out there already will burn left on default settings out of the box

Will have to try to display side by side 3D astropics when I get the network setup.

All in one, I didn't expect much given the price difference with LCD/LED but very pleasantly surprised. The image is really really nice. We're talking about Real3D quality like at the movies. I have another SONY Bravia which is 1920px LCD and sharp as but the new Samsung is definitely on par with it as a Plasma even in 3D mode so pretty cool.

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Old 14-11-2010, 03:56 PM
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When my new house is finished, I have "board" approval for a 65". Hope I get a bargain like yours. Will be interested to see how long the 3D novelty holds up.
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Old 14-11-2010, 04:05 PM
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Hey Marc !

Sounds terrific !! Great price/deal, too !

I'm a Sony AND a Samsung fan ! Can't go wrong with either of them.

The choice can be tricky, but Samsung make it so much easier with the pricing and the freebies !

Have fun !

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Old 14-11-2010, 04:21 PM
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When my new house is finished, I have "board" approval for a 65". Hope I get a bargain like yours. Will be interested to see how long the 3D novelty holds up.
You might want to go for someting smaller unless you can sit a good 4m away from the screen. A 46" will give you 2m away. Sweet spot for 3D is between 2m and 4m. 65" will be too big IMHO unless you have a big room and the couch is far enough.
Another thing I have noticed about the Samsung is that the 3D is not dependent on the angle of view. You can move around the room or tilt your head. You'll still see 3D, even at an angle of incidence >45 degrees. 3D goes inside the screen. You don't see anything popping out of the screen plane like the movies though. But then again I have not seen true a 3D bluray playing on it. Only 2D->3D conversion so far and the PS3, but it does looks like there's a hole in the wall where the TV is.


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Hey Marc !

Sounds terrific !! Great price/deal, too !

I'm a Sony AND a Samsung fan ! Can't go wrong with either of them.

The choice can be tricky, but Samsung make it so much easier with the pricing and the freebies !

Have fun !

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The other brands have some nice freebies too. Panasonic is the only one that will deliver a 3D bluray of Avatar, and I think one other brand even gives away a 3D camera! Samsung is the cheapest though so far.
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Old 14-11-2010, 06:44 PM
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I know what you mean Marc, I had a look at a panasonic plasma in the same size, I couldn't believe how good the 3d was. I would like one as well but HRH has vetoed as we already have a 50 inch plasma.
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Old 14-11-2010, 06:49 PM
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I know what you mean Marc, I had a look at a panasonic plasma in the same size, I couldn't believe how good the 3d was. I would like one as well but HRH has vetoed as we already have a 50 inch plasma.
I bribed mine. One ring + plasma I was still in front. Sneaky.
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Old 14-11-2010, 06:54 PM
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Sounds great for 3D. Unfortunately for me I can't wear the glasses I feel sick after a few minutes.

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Old 14-11-2010, 06:57 PM
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Sounds great for 3D. Unfortunately for me I can't wear the glasses I feel sick after a few minutes.

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Wow! Is it motion sickness or just the 3D feeling that throws you?
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Old 14-11-2010, 07:03 PM
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Sounds like a great deal Marc, good score.

This whole 3D thing though has me a bit worried. I can't see 3D due to the vision differences between my eyes, so I just hope there will always be a non-3D alternative.

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Old 14-11-2010, 07:08 PM
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Sounds like a great deal Marc, good score.

This whole 3D thing though has me a bit worried. I can't see 3D due to the vision differences between my eyes, so I just hope there will always be a non-3D alternative.

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There is a depth setting that will adjust the offset of the display so you can pretty much go from no 3D or very little to a very deep effect. Defaults to 5 on my set and goes up to 10. So you can make the effect very subtle. They have demo sets with 3D glasses fitted on a pole in front of a big 55" plasma in most JB HI-FI, BING-LEE, etc... to only name a few. Just walk in the shop and have a peek. You'll be amazed.
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Old 14-11-2010, 07:18 PM
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How many DVD films or shows are 3d ?

I did notice the first afl final was done in 3d, but not aware of much else yet.

I haven't seen them in the shops yet ( ok I haven't even looked) but the effect at the cinema is quite something. Would be most interesting to have a good look next time I'm in jbhifi.
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Old 14-11-2010, 07:22 PM
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How many DVD films or shows are 3d ?

I did notice the first afl final was done in 3d, but not aware of much else yet.

I haven't seen them in the shops yet ( ok I haven't even looked) but the effect at the cinema is quite something. Would be most interesting to have a good look next time I'm in jbhifi.
TBH I have only played 2D DVD and Bluray discs on it and viewed them with the 2D->3D converter and it looks like 3D. Avatar 2D bluray was unreal viewed in 3D. Like at the movie. In a couple of weeks I should get 4 title in 3D bluray part of the offer so I'll see what's different. Definitely walk in a JB HI-FI and have a look. I was amazed. Worth noting they have dumped any S-video/components technology so if you want to see Foxtel in high def with an old box you're stuck. You'll have to move to IQ2 wich has an HDMI output. PS3 true 3D with games is already geared for different 3D types with the latest firmware. I have tried side by side so far. It looked great. Other older games can be viewed in 3D through the 2D->3D converter and they look very good too.
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So I can watch normal TV, but have to wear the glasses! Great!


> I did notice the first afl final was done in 3d, but not aware of much else yet.

Ah, but can you get pron in 3D? In Feel-Around, and Smell-o-Vision?

The sooner we all get a data socket in the back of our heads the better!

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Old 14-11-2010, 07:32 PM
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So I can watch normal TV, but have to wear the glasses! Great!


> I did notice the first afl final was done in 3d, but not aware of much else yet.

Ah, but can you get pron in 3D? In Feel-Around, and Smell-o-Vision?

The sooner we all get a data socket in the back of our heads the better!

Cheers,
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You don't have to wear the glasses if you watch normal TV. Only in 3D mode. There's a quick 3D toggle on the remote that will switch the screen in 3D mode and back. You can view all 2D programs even Foxtel in 3D through the converter. Not sure about smell. I was watching the Matrix Revolutions in 3D last night through the converter and I wouldn't like to smell Zion sewers
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Wow! Is it motion sickness or just the 3D feeling that throws you?
Not sure all I know is I have tied to watch 3D in the theatres but can't I can't even look through 3D books without feeling sick

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You might want to go for someting smaller unless you can sit a good 4m away from the screen. A 46" will give you 2m away. Sweet spot for 3D is between 2m and 4m. 65" will be too big IMHO unless you have a big room and the couch is far enough.
I have a 50 at the moment and the new room will be 6.5m wide by 5m deep, so sitting 4m from the screen will be about right
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Not sure all I know is I have tied to watch 3D in the theatres but can't I can't even look through 3D books without feeling sick

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That might help.
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I have a 50 at the moment and the new room will be 6.5m wide by 5m deep, so sitting 4m from the screen will be about right
Yeah that's plenty of room. I'd cut the rumpus in half and put a control room for the telescope on the other side.
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Yeah that's plenty of room. I'd cut the rumpus in half and put a control room for the telescope on the other side.
Already have that, the room next door is MY playroom. Plus I get a 3.5x5.5 shed in the backyard (no good for an observatory as it is under an mulberry tree).

My 50 will go to a TV room at the other end of the house for the kids.
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Already have that, the room next door is MY playroom. Plus I get a 3.5x5.5 shed in the backyard (no good for an observatory as it is under an mulberry tree).

My 50 will go to a TV room at the other end of the house for the kids.
You can't have the 3.5 x 5.5 shed. That's for all my gear
I wondered why Marc was allowed to buy all that new astro gear.
The 3D Tv is obviously a peace offering cause he won't have time to watch it.

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