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07-10-2009, 04:42 PM
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Hey hey it's saturday
I forgot to watch it last week but must remember tonight.
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07-10-2009, 04:54 PM
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Yep, same here. I'm sure it will be as good as last week. By the way. I recorded it on HD and burnt it to 3 discs - for archival purposes. Can't wait to see Oswald Q and Jackie. Back at the start of the 1997 season of HHIS, Daryl wanted his desk movable. Krystal had fitted an electric wheelchair wheels, motors, whilst he stood on a low platform behind the desk controlling it with a joystick mounted into the desk. My task that year was to wire up his desk for indicators, horn, electric car radio aerial. One of my many jobs at 9.
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07-10-2009, 11:11 PM
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Stephen,
That sounds way cool. I remember the desk.
Tonight's show was great. I, can't, for the life of me work out why they canned it. It is one of a handful of shows that you can actually sit down and watch with the whole family.
Meh, I don't even have a TV and went over a friend's place just to watch this as I miss it.
Regards,
Humayun
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07-10-2009, 11:18 PM
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It was great ! I always told the kids about the show and they watched it tonight and they loved it. Amazing!
Steve, that sounds great, did you ever meet the guitarist Simon Patterson?
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07-10-2009, 11:22 PM
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Twas good fun again tonight. I haven't heard any talk there'll be any more. That's a shame.
When it came to an end all those years ago....I thought it had had its day and it was time to give it away. But all it needed was a rest
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08-10-2009, 01:35 AM
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I watched it last week but missed a lot of it tonight, got caught at work.
Really enjoyed what I saw of both.
Agree with Matt, back then it did seem like it had had its day.... maybe it's short lived return has highlighted just how much crap there is on TV these days.
After only two, I'm gonna miss it.
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08-10-2009, 04:05 AM
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Don't spoiling a good thing...
Enjoyed so much the grand reminiscences and the really innocent fun I remember as a growing up school kid. (I always thought the Saturday morning programme was so very enjoyable, especially sitting around the TV with my brother and sisters.)
Jackie McDonald own views were 100% correct. Even after six months of missing everyone (when the show for me finished), my own life had already moved on.
However, if they go and decide they will bring it back, the memories might be soon completely spoilt (perhaps already with the very sour ending so badly painted in controversy with Harry Connick Jr. I.e. Reports like the UK "The Guardian"; " Harry Connick Jr weirdly unimpressed by Australia's blackface Jackson 5." )
So in the end, I think they should just let it be.
Simply gone by not forgotten.
Note 1: My favourite jokes of all the shows of HHIS were the really the very old Vaudeville ones. The classic one I've always remembered is;
Dickie : My prize pig only has three legs!
Darryl : What?
Dickie : My prize pig only has three legs!!
Darryl : Why does you pig only have three legs?
Dickie : We wanted a leg of pork, but didn't have the heart to kill it!  Just Brilliant!
Note 2: Is John Blackman's actual name now also politically incorrect?
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08-10-2009, 04:48 AM
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Harry Dropkick Junior ruined it for me. Another over-sensitive American thinking they can preach their crap to the rest of the world. The Jackson Five skit was hardly racist. The same way I wasn't offended by Martin Lawrence portraying a white chick in, well, white chicks...
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08-10-2009, 06:44 AM
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We missed it last week but watched this one. Thoroughly enjoyed it. This is one show that is simply about one thing - fun.  Can't think of any current shows like it...
Al.
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08-10-2009, 08:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhino1980
Harry Dropkick Junior ruined it for me. Another over-sensitive American thinking they can preach their crap to the rest of the world. The Jackson Five skit was hardly racist. The same way I wasn't offended by Martin Lawrence portraying a white chick in, well, white chicks...
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I liked the show, i don't think it'll cut it doing it every week if it did come back, maybe once a month??
The Harry Connick thing.....i think we have uncovered a MAJOR double standard! I thought the skit was in bad taste today but the same skit being on all those years ago it was ok.......it was a dampner on the end of the show and Harry took it way too seriously......
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08-10-2009, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Outbackmanyep
Harry took it way too seriously......
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I thought he took the issue seriously...but handled himself quite graciously
I agree that perhaps it didn't need to be some kind of big statement on the air ...to end the show on a bit of a sour note. That was Darryl's decision, which I also think was quite gracious, if unnecessary.
I think Harry could have issued a statement via the media or a website to get his point across, perhaps? Doing it right at the end of the show, to camera, gave it way too much gravity and only made the situation appear worse than it was.
Just my 2c worth.
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08-10-2009, 11:16 AM
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Here's a video of the controversy:
http://player.video.news.com.au/news...MIawW_wANydAo1
I think it all ended well with the apology from Daryl, and Harry getting a chance to talk about it.
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08-10-2009, 11:51 AM
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The segment should never have gone to air in the first place . Boot polish send ups of black American musicians on air on Australian TV in 2009? Would the segment have gone to air if it was a send-up of Commercially successful 80's aboriginal band Yothu Yindi? Hardly . Shows what the the Hey Hey programming team think about their target audience..Lowest Common Denominator as always.
I thought HC was very gracious and I think Hey Hey were very wise to give him some air-time and defuse things a little. I don't watch Hey Hey but I was certainly offended and appalled by the video clip. I think Darryl could have apologised not only to HC, but to _all the viewers that may have been offended also_ which would have been some admission at least that the clip was in genuinely poor taste.
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08-10-2009, 12:02 PM
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I heard a speculative comment this morning that Harry would have quickly realised that this would get an airing in the USA and that he had to move immediately to express his concern so that he didn't receive criticism in his main market. I have no reason to doubt, however, that he expressed his personal firmly held views.
And I used to sit down years ago with my parents and watch the Black and White Mistral show, from the UK. My, how times have changed - and rightfully so, in my personal view.
I only caught general glimpses between other things I had to do, but great to see Jackie and Denise again. But, where was "Animal" the drummer? I didn't see him or maybe didn't recognise him!! (Des McKenna)
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08-10-2009, 12:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Satchmo
The segment should never have gone to air in the first place . Boot polish send ups of black American musicians on air on Australian TV in 2009? Would the segment have gone to air if it was a send-up of Commercially successful 80's aboriginal band Yothu Yindi? Hardly . Shows what the the Hey Hey programming team think about their target audience..Lowest Common Denominator as always.
I thought HC was very gracious and I think Hey Hey were very wise to give him some air-time and defuse things a little. I don't watch Hey Hey but I was certainly offended and appalled by the video clip. I think Darryl could have apologised not only to HC, but to _all the viewers that may have been offended also_ which would have been some admission at least that the clip was in genuinely poor taste.
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Agreed. The decision to put this act on was ill-advised and poor.
However, to give it some context, it was a revival of an act many years ago which appeared on HHIS. I suppose they thought that it would be a nice touch to revisit the act, given the entire Reunion was one (or 2) giant acts of nostalgia.
I do wonder whether it would have assumed the same level of notoriety if Harry hadn't made an issue of it???
But again...a poor decision. I'm certain it wasn't a deliberate act of racism, as some are claiming. Just a clumsy and naive attempt at humour
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08-10-2009, 12:19 PM
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I still fail to see how it was racist. Though if I was narrow-minded, and prudish I probably would.
RACISM:
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
Hmmm. None of those.
Ever watched Dave Chappel, the African-American comedian? He makes fun of white folk all the time. More so, he makes fun of black people too! White and Black people are in the audience laughing themselves to tears. Eddy Murphy, Chris Rock, Chris Tucker god I could go on. Instead of seeing what they say as racist, I see it as humorous observations about people. There seems to be no backlash against them.
The Jackson Five, were in fact black. They were tremendously talented. Some guys put some black stuff on their faces and mimicked them. There was no suggestion of inferiority, superiority and no derogatory comments made. And there's one of the key problems with our society today. We're all becoming hyper-sensitive to things that just shouldn't matter. What is supposed to make us Australian, thick skin and a good sense of humour, is eroding away. It's alright for Americans to wage illegal wars and cause horrific collateral damage, but they can tell us what is funny and what isn't? In OUR OWN country no less? Come on, they dictate to us too much already and we take too much notice. Did the audience boo? No, they laughed and enjoyed the act in the spirit it was intended, just like Aussies should. Who cares if that idiot doesn't get our sense of humour?
Australia definately does have some racial demons to get past, and this is what we should be working on, not getting all hot and bothered about skits on a variety show.
Seriously, some Aussies need to eat a bowl of concrete for breakfast everyday, because we're becoming a bunch of whimps.
That said, I agree that Darryl handled it the right way.
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08-10-2009, 12:23 PM
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I missed this segment however I am suprised it was ever recorded let alone played to air.
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08-10-2009, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Outbackmanyep
I liked the show, i don't think it'll cut it doing it every week if it did come back, maybe once a month??
The Harry Connick thing.....i think we have uncovered a MAJOR double standard! I thought the skit was in bad taste today but the same skit being on all those years ago it was ok.......it was a dampner on the end of the show and Harry took it way too seriously......
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Sorry Harry Conick is full of it - see his skit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooKaCbMvaZ0
and see what he does ie blacking up, taking the pi55 out of religion and lambasting blacks. Really double standards.
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08-10-2009, 12:46 PM
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On a positive note, I think Jo Beth Taylor looked smashing. She always looks so radiant. What a little hottie.
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08-10-2009, 12:49 PM
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I don't see him 'blacking up' there  He hasn't used 'black face'.
That's more a cheeky dig at evangelical southern preachers....and a little dig at the commercialism of Xmas.
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