Who made indicating optional????

[Omaroo (Chris Malikoff)]

I cracked it last night driving home - big time. I'd been turned in-front-of by yet another driver who just didn't bother to indicate their intention with that funny little stick on the steering wheel. I've had a gut-full of it.

I've made a conscious effort to count the number of drongos who don't bother to indicate any more as they weave in and out of traffic and I'm convinced that there is an epidemic brewing. I FOLLOW THE RULES AND THE LAW - so why don't these idiots? I'm tired of assuming that someone is going to take that one-car space in front of me in traffic - and not even bothering to indicate that they intend to do so. It's bloody dangerous!!! The sad fact is that more people don't bother about indication than do - and I'm not making that up, it's my honest observation.

Has the law changed since I went for my licence back in 1979 or something? Do we not need to indicate before a lane change any more? I got caught twice when I was a 20-year old for not doing it - probably the only two times I forgot to do so. I paid the price and lost my P's for 6 months over it. Nowadays it's the norm, not the exception!

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[xelasnave]

Now I bet you feel better.

Dont let them upset you ..if you let all those who do not do the right thing upset you life will forever be miserable...

Laws are not respected if they are not enforced so presumably the fine is not high enough to make it attractive for the Government to send out officers to raise revenue via enforcement of that particlular law... they had a lot of tecknology to pay for and lets face it ..the numbers must show that the new gear pays its way.. if we had a machine to detect turn violators it would be different... I hope you understand the the way it really works...it is not the drivers it is the lack of resolve by Government to the details of the act.(and regulations MTA)
alex

[Ric]

I'm with you on this one Chris, for me being a motorbike rider it's deadly.

You would think that the car companies are selling indicator bulbs as optional extras these days as they are so rarely used.

Cheers

[goober (Doug)]

It is getting more common alas. I'm sure we all have peeves... here are my three ...

Mobile phones bolted to driver's ears.

Driving around suburbia with fog lights on.

I'm a pedestrian much more than a driver, and literally nobody gives way to pedestrians when turning out of a carriage way now. It's even difficult getting cars to stop at pedestrian crossings!

Every now and again, I get the triple - a car turning into me as I walk across the street, with fog lights on, and the driver on the phone ...

[Omaroo (Chris Malikoff)]

Originally Posted by Ric

I'm with you on this one Chris, for me being a motorbike rider it's deadly.

You would think that the car companies are selling indicator bulbs as optional extras these days as they are so rarely used.

Cheers

Too correct Ric. That's why I don't ride any more. No-one in Sydney gives a toss about you, on your bike, any more.

[leon]

I am sure that I have mad mistakes on the road and probably even forgot to indicate.

However I do my utmost to respect other drivers and try very hard to make sure I'm keeping within the law.

Now that said, there is one thing that really p.....me off.

I often let people in if the traffic is heavy and they are trying to get in, but only when I'm stopped, plus numerous good gestures, and the only people that don't give you a small thank you with a wave, or something are women, drivers, my wife agrees and she reckons that the women drivers expect this because they are female.

Gee i feel better now

Leon

[DJVege]

I seem to be having less and less patience for inconsiderate, or just plain terrible, driving!!!!!!!! It's either no indication, no idea what the road rules are or stupid bogans with done up P.O.S. trying to race NO ONE during peak hour!!!!!!

[xelasnave]

AND no one has a man carrying a red flag walking out in front anymore.
alex

[GrahamL]

I drive a windy 20 km stretch of the pacific hwy each morning and afternoon and over the last 12 years have seen and just missed some pretty horrendous stuff.. Pulled out in front of a b double a while back ..
when i say pulled out he was a l o n g way back ,but that was it I had pulled out onto his piece of road , he was already on his horn despite beingmore than 200 mtrs away in a 50 zone and a right angled corner he had to negotiate before getting anywhere near me .. other cars got between him and me and he just rode them with his horn and bull bar all the way out of town .when an overtaking lane showed up everyone let the nut go ..At the crest of the hill I went to pass him , well when I was just beside the front trailer he threw the cab into my lane sending me braking into the oncoming lane with a roadbike behind me doing the same .. nice eh ? .. thankfully no traffic was coming over the crest at the time .. yes I did stop in at the police staion that afternoon .. Its best to call them at the time and they can stop drivers like this up the road I'm told .



this happened acouple months later locally .. I'm convinced this was the guy
http://www.northernstar.com.au/local...toryid=3758550

I don't know if this crew use indicaters .. you know I never notice

[Nightshift]

Originally Posted by goober

Driving around suburbia with fog lights on.

Oh yeah, this is my favourite, EVERY idiot with a piece of garbage Suburu does this, I have spoken to the RTA and gues what? It's illegal, you can only have 2 white lights on with on-coming traffic, anything else is considered high beam, so why do I have to put up with blinding lights while these #$^& get to see better than I do at my peril, in short they dont, EVERY time I see one of these people I hit high beam, they eventually do to but I dont care, just focus on the white line and not them. cops dont do anyting about it but boy if your tail light is out look out, they'll book you quicker than blink. I just dont get it.

[xelasnave]

They are all controlled by the Dept of Morons who are there to see to it that no one can ..have a nice day.

Just take the old side by side out of the rack behind the drivers head and fire a couple of warning shots into their legs.

alex

[vash (Ashley)]

I almost left a nice impression on a hoon yesterday. driving through the roundabout he came fly off the highway into the roundabout only looked after he entered it and to see my bullbar a foot from his door. Funny part was I was going the same way he was and after a couple of K's his driving was getting frantic. How arrogant, thinking I'd waste my time and fuel following him.

[Outbackmanyep]

The RTA have rules but no means to back it up all the time!
The police don't care if people don't indicate, unless its in an accident, because it's too much paperwork to book someone!!!!

Heres one...why is it...if you're going straight through a single lane roundabout do you have to indicate if you're NOT turning???? What a dumb rule......it causes confusion AND frustration and many near misses!

Did you know that if you're on a roundabout you don't have to give way to the right, if you are the one on the roundabout everybody else must give way to you!!! But you ask the RTA you get one answer, ask a copper and they give a totally different answer!!!!

As for accidents i think they should adopt a rule like Boating where you have to avoid a collision even if you're in the right of way!!!!

[Glenhuon (Bill)]

The way I was taught in the UK was if you are going straight through at a roundabout, keep to the left hand lane and there is no need to indicate as you are not turning off the carraigeway you are on. If turning right use the inside lane and indicate right, when turning off indicate left, if turning left stay in the left lane and indicate ditto. I still do this, and never had a problem. Pretty easy, but I think some people get their licence in a raffle.
On the other hand, if we had to resit our test every 5 years, how many of us would pass

Bill

[Louwai (Bryan)]

I was behind a young girl. She was driving a new VW beetle.
I was on my bike.
She had the phone stuck to her right ear. We were on a 2 lane section of road which merged into one lane.
I was looking over my right shoulder for a position to merge. I felt something hit my bike & I looked forward.
The flamin beetle was STOPPED in front of me.
It was the girl's ph hitting my bike that I felt..
This intelligent girl had quickly looked to her right to merge & while doing so, dropped her ph out the window of the car. She then jammed on the brakes.
I quickly steered to the right, JUST missing the rear of the car & headed up the side. THEN this stupid F***** girl opens her door.
I stopped with my front wheel just pushing against the interior trim of her front door.

THEN,
She steps out of the car & over my front wheel.
Trotts up the road, picks up her ph. Waves to the cars all stopped on the street behind her, PUTS THE PH STRAIGHT BACK TO HER EAR, walks back, gets in her car & drives away still talking on the ph.

I was dumbfounded. If I had my wits about me I would have taken her keys & left them at the nearest police stn.

[Omaroo (Chris Malikoff)]

What are parents turning out these days?

Originally Posted by Louwai

I was behind a young girl. She was driving a new VW beetle.
I was on my bike.
She had the phone stuck to her right ear. We were on a 2 lane section of road which merged into one lane.
I was looking over my right shoulder for a position to merge. I felt something hit my bike & I looked forward.
The flamin beetle was STOPPED in front of me.
It was the girl's ph hitting my bike that I felt..
This intelligent girl had quickly looked to her right to merge & while doing so, dropped her ph out the window of the car. She then jammed on the brakes.
I quickly steered to the right, JUST missing the rear of the car & headed up the side. THEN this stupid F***** girl opens her door.
I stopped with my front wheel just pushing against the interior trim of her front door.

THEN,
She steps out of the car & over my front wheel.
Trotts up the road, picks up her ph. Waves to the cars all stopped on the street behind her, PUTS THE PH STRAIGHT BACK TO HER EAR, walks back, gets in her car & drives away still talking on the ph.

I was dumbfounded. If I had my wits about me I would have taken her keys & left them at the nearest police stn.

[Glenhuon (Bill)]

At the risk of getting blasted by the ladies in here.
Young women with P plates are the worst, most dangerous drivers on the NSW roads. Young guys may have the testosteron overdrive problem, but young women.... they just don't seem to give a darn about safe everyday driving. I've seen it all, phone on the ear, texting while driving, checking the hair and makeup while in traffic, spotting an interesting shop and turning across a lane of moving traffic. How do they get a licence !
Someone is falling down on the job at the testing department or we need to look at the test itself.

Bill

[Glenhuon (Bill)]

I don't know if its changed in the UK, but when I first got my licence it was 3 strikes and your out. 3 speeding/ careless driving offences in 2 years, automatic 6 months without a licence, a hefty fine and no extraordinaries. Drink driving, hefty fine and mandatory 12 months + when you got it back the insurance companies multiplied your premium by 4. Second offence, a guest of her majesty and 2 years suspension. These stuck with you for 10 years.
Time to make the punishment harsher, only way to get these idiots into line.

Bill

[Omaroo (Chris Malikoff)]

Originally Posted by Glenhuon

At the risk of getting blasted by the ladies in here.
Young women with P plates are the worst, most dangerous drivers on the NSW roads. Young guys may have the testosteron overdrive problem, but young women.... they just don't seem to give a darn about safe everyday driving. I've seen it all, phone on the ear, texting while driving, checking the hair and makeup while in traffic, spotting an interesting shop and turning across a lane of moving traffic. How do they get a licence !
Someone is falling down on the job at the testing department or we need to look at the test itself.

Bill

You're right Bill - these young girls, in my experience, seem to be some of the most arrogant drivers on the road too. No wonder we are probably, for the first time in recent history, starting to hear about more young girls becoming actively involved in robberies and bashings than I can remember. I'm struggling to try and remember hearing about anything like this throughout the 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's. I guess that's what "equality" is all about, huh? If they get caught then they should also be punished just the same - and I have a feeling they aren't.

Jeez I'm becoming a cranky old b'tard! I guess that I'm becoming sick and tired of the liberties modern kids expect - and worse, get. I'd like to meet one of these civil libertarians one day and have a word to them. I was disciplined as a kid and now, many years later, respect other people and wish the same back. The typical modern kid won't ever give me that.... but there are some exceptions that I've met, I'm glad to say.

Bring back the 70's!

[OneOfOne (Trevor)]

I remember a story that a guy I worked with more than 10 years ago witnessed. A large truck was coming up to a set of lights, not speeding, and as the lights turned red he began breaking, normally. Suddenly a driver changed lanes in front of the truck who had to hit the anchors so hard, smoke poured from the tyres as he tried to avoid creaming the car in front. Foutunately, the left most lane was empty and he was able to get the truck into this lane and bring it safely to a stop next to her car. Next thing the truck door opens and the truckie gets out, onto the roof of the car, down onto the road and tells the driver in no uncertain terms that he was "not happy Jan". He then climbed back onto the roof and up into the cabin. The lights were now green and he drove off....