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Old 08-07-2013, 09:28 PM
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A little bit of everything.

This one has it all. (or at least quite a bit)

  • 3 O'clock - The ISS (International Space Station) streaking through the sky.
  • 4 O'clock - The beam of light from the setting sun. (I had to check Colin's post out again, because I knew I had seen it before)
  • 7 & 8 O'clock - the Small and Large MC (Magellanic Clouds)
  • 6 to 10 O'clock - Our Galaxy, the Milky Way.
  • From the Horizon in - some red from the remaining sunset.
  • 8 O'clock - City' Glow from Maryborough.
  • 11 O'clock - City' Glow from Hervey Bay.
Nikon D800, Sigma 8mm fisheye, F3.5, Iso 200, 185 seconds (3 minutes).
1 shot, no stacking, no panorama, no blending.
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Old 12-07-2013, 11:20 PM
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Come-on guys and girls - I don't bump my shots (Yes I know I'm doing it on this one occasion!!)

Personally this is one of my favorites (favorites of mine that is).

What don't you like about it?
What draws you away from it?

(no I'm not trying to turn this into Facebook - I am genuinely intrigued!!)

Any feedback appreciated - I am asking for negative feedback!!
It's burly, there is no focal point, colour isn't right, you must have had to be there, it's just booooring!! (no feedback will be criticized)- be blunt please. (PM me if you don't want to post directly)

Next time I will track the stars and blur the background. (I'm sure that will look nice ) - Focus on the center blur the edges....
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Old 13-07-2013, 06:17 AM
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I can honestly say that I didn't even see this one when you first posted it Michael. Must have disappeared down the list pretty quickly. But now that I have seen it and you are after critique........Interesting shot but way too long of an exposure time leading to most of the stars being small trails ruins the overall effect for me. Now I realise that you probably choose that exposure time to capture the full trail of that great ISS pass (and it does that very well) but it does not work very well for the rest of the elements in the image. Too long for a night scape, and too short to work as a star trail image. If I was wanting to capture something like this I would have taken a continuous series of shorter exposures (with a necessary higher ISO) to keep within the "500/600 Rule", and then combined them to produce the full trail of the ISS, and then I would of masked back in just one of the sub frames, leaving crisp landscape, "static" stars and ISS trail.

Now if you took this idea to the next level and raised your aperture, lowered your ISO even further and went for a much longer exposure time of a few hours (or just stacked multiple ones like this) to produce a fisheye star trail shot, then you would really have my attention
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Old 14-07-2013, 09:20 PM
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Thanks Greg.
I was keen to try and get it in a "one shot'er"
I will work on a much longer exposure - thanks for the excellent feedback.

This was my first post (ever in IIS)... but 20'ish shots- Keen to do it in one!!
http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/s...115#post953115

Thanks again.
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Old 14-07-2013, 10:06 PM
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I like them both - not something I could have managed.
Thanks for sharing.
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Old 14-07-2013, 11:43 PM
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Hi Michael,

Nice effort. You certainly do have a lot in frame!!

Since you're actively seeking comments and criticism... One of the classic rules of good composition in photography is that you need a combination of (1) something interesting for the eye to lock onto, and (2) strong compositional elements for the eye to follow or be guided around the image. Just having a photo chockablock full of stuff isn't in-and-of-itself interesting; it really needs those compositional elements to catch and then sustain visual interest.

Since Greg was far too much of a gentleman to toot his own horn, I'll happily do it for him Take a look at this spectacular photo:

http://www.capturingthenight.com/blo...weblookout.jpg

When I look at it, the aurora on the horizon immediately catches my attention. I then notice the panoramic setting of the hilly landscape and Milky Way in the background. Next, a number of lines draws my eye towards the right half of the frame (the curve of the aurora, the horizon, the ridge of the hills, and the stone wall in the foreground). I then notice that there's a gazebo of sorts, and the lights grab my attention again - looking closely, I notice that there are cameras shooting away in there. The brightness of the moon in the corner starts to grab my attention, but then I see the interesting silhouette of the tree before I get to the moon. I look at the moon, admire the shadows that it casts on the benches in the foreground, look back up towards the moon, and recognise the Orion constellation (neat!). After all that, I look back towards the aurora and admire the view all over again

In your image, you also have a lot of "stuff" but there's not much to guide the eye. The ISS trail is nice and contrasty, but it starts from a relatively uninteresting corner of frame, and ends at another relatively uninteresting part of frame. In between, there are lines pointing in many different directions - trees pointing up/right/left/diagonally, zodiacal light pointing elsewhere, star trails in every direction, and a rainbow of colours around the frame. It's a bit visually confusing without anything to "lock" onto. This happens to be why fisheye lenses aren't used very often in photography (though they're spectacular when used well) - good composition is difficult.

I think this scene may have been a very interesting time lapse, i.e. the relative motion of stars and ISS in opposite directions. Have you tried de-fishing the image (turning it into a normal rectilinear image - there are plugins/software for that)? It could be interesting... you'd get a nice horizon with the "emu" of the Milky Way bulge running across it, and the ISS trail making for a nice arc across the sky.

Hope this helps! Anyway, that's just my humble opinion. Feel free to ignore. Good luck and keep shooting
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Old 15-07-2013, 07:10 PM
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Excellent, thanks Dave (and Greg).

I'm going to keep working on the project, long exposure and the star trails will tidy the scene up a bit, I will try and work in integrating the foreground better or at least adding a dominant element.

I will start sketching to see what I can simplify and see what I can come up with. I have a lighthouse or fire lookout in mind but it may be too domimant....
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