just thought this might give members a bit of a laugh,considering the other thread going on at the moment,think we need a laugh or some cheer.
My son and his mate went down to Brissy airport and port of Brisbane-I am not too sure exactly where they ended up,but obviously poking around,a security guard pulled them up,and made my son's mate delete all images of his 5DII.
Near the seen Joel took a photo of his 'suspicious' mate,and then made this poster!
Joel and his friend coming up home soon,and mate with 5DII keen on astrophotography and has a 14 mm L so that on my Vixen GP mount tracking,should give some nice images,and hopefully I'll be able to get him into some photography that will not get him in strife! LOL
My son and his mate went down to Brissy airport and port of Brisbane-I am not too sure exactly where they ended up,but obviously poking around,a security guard pulled them up,and made my son's mate delete all images of his 5DII.
Really I would have told the security where to go, in no uncertain terms And then if he forced me or had me arrested, I would have sued the arse off him" Hmmm.... 20k for a new Takahashi 150mmm sounds good
Can't stop people taking photos from a public space, as far as I am aware. Or are they going to ban cameras next. I would love to see them try Be like trying to ban guns in America.
Sounds like someone overstepping the bounds of their authority. Problem is, some people just don't know their rights, so they get away with it. I had a problem with a person of authority once and the moment I asked his name and said that I would be reporting this to his superiors and my government minister, he backed off real quick.
Last edited by Stardrifter_WA; 22-06-2013 at 01:20 PM.
Pointless arguing with security - just delete the photos - come home and run an undelete utility. The memory cards tend to be FAT formatted file systems - trivial to restore deleted photos if you haven't since overwritten the memroy.
There's no limitation on private photography in a public place, but police (not security guards) do have 'move on' powers and if the photography in question raises suspicion of an offence (e.g. paedophelia, terrorism, espionage) then that may be grounds for arrest. I'm certain that no security guard can make you delete your photos.
The UK has been through this in recent years - there are many stories about tourists being stopped and questioned by police and council "officers" (they have much more active council rangers than we do) and being told to delete their photos, but it was challeneged and mostly stopped, AFAIK.
I was once stopped by police in Sydney with my camera going for a walk. My walking route took me past lower north shore harbourfront where there are many features worthy of photography - people who have been there will know what I mean - but to get there I had to walk from my place through residential streets. Apparently I looked like a burglar, or so they said, but how simply walking on a footpath with a camera bag over my shoulder makes me look like a burglar, I don't know. Anyway, IMO, the police were rude, arrogant and way too quick to jump to conclusions. I can easily see how the wrong people get arrested simply for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. I suppose the same goes for security guards: if you're trained to "see" bad guys, then that's what you see.
There's no limitation on private photography in a public place,
Hi,
It depends nowadays, or so I was told by an enormous police sergeant (he was quite polite). My niece (age 15yrs) was doing photography at a Canberra high school, and her assignment was to do a seascape, and an industrial landscape. Not many of them in Canberra, so they drove to Sydney for a visit, and I took her to the older rusty side of the Kurnell oil refinery in Sir Joseph Banks Drive, then on to the coast near Boat Harbour. Perfect.
That night the doorbell rang, and two police demanded to know what I had been doing there etc etc. I got upset, and gave them the old "democratic rights public road this isn't a dictatorship" line, but they were unimpressed.
No, no, all nonsense, sorry, said the sergeant, you can't take photos of certain sensitive installations even from a public place.
"How would we know?" I asked "there were no signs about it there"
Not relevant, said the walloper, you can't photograph installations at the airport or at railway stations either . True. There are no signs, but you can't snap away on a Sydney railway station. It's uber verboten.
I don't know who to be most upset at. A pox on all of them.
It depends nowadays, or so I was told by an enormous police sergeant (he was quite polite). My niece (age 15yrs) was doing photography at a Canberra high school, and her assignment was to do a seascape, and an industrial landscape. Not many of them in Canberra, so they drove to Sydney for a visit, and I took her to the older rusty side of the Kurnell oil refinery in Sir Joseph Banks Drive, then on to the coast near Boat Harbour. Perfect.
That night the doorbell rang, and two police demanded to know what I had been doing there etc etc. I got upset, and gave them the old "democratic rights public road this isn't a dictatorship" line, but they were unimpressed.
No, no, all nonsense, sorry, said the sergeant, you can't take photos of certain sensitive installations even from a public place.
"How would we know?" I asked "there were no signs about it there"
Not relevant, said the walloper, you can't photograph installations at the airport or at railway stations either . True. There are no signs, but you can't snap away on a Sydney railway station. It's uber verboten.
I don't know who to be most upset at. A pox on all of them.
No cheers
I would tell them to go jump, whether they're cops or not. Nicely of course, otherwise they may arrest you for disorderly conduct. They simply cannot stop you, but they have the right to question you if it appeared as suspicious behaviour, and that is fair enough in these days of terrorism; I have no problem with that. Bloody terrorists! They are making life difficult for us all.
Just imagine what they would do if you put one of those small drones up with a camera on it, probably shoot it down. Next will be police cars with SAM's (surface-to-air-missiles) mounted on the roof
I would certainly question their ability to stop you. But then, I have often questioned Police over their questionable behaviour. Some officers do tend to assert their authority inappropriately. Bullies come in all shapes, sizes and colours, and some of them wear blue uniforms. They intimidate you through your lack of knowledge of the law, so know your rights.
Just because an officer of the law says so, doesn't mean it is so! This may shed some light on the subject: http://content.photojojo.com/tips/le...photographers/ This one applies to the US and I would imagine that the laws are similar here, particularly when you take into account how paranoid the US is about security; and I sure hope so, as I will be there in less than three weeks. A six week trip around the US which includes Stellafane. Gee, sure hope I can take photos there I can just imagine the controllers of their overhead surveillance; Are they missile tubes gathered there in the field?
And please note: I am not casting aspersions at the Police in general, as they do a fantastic job, often under difficult circumstances. I have a lot of respect for the Police, and the law for that matter, but that doesn't mean I have respect for all officers, as some simply do not command respect.
Last edited by Stardrifter_WA; 22-06-2013 at 11:54 PM.
Sorry folks-was not my intention to bring another thread that seems to have become some what negative into the forum-obviously no cheer from some,and missiles
Maybe one has to now,on this forum-when trying to give a cheer up,has to begin their thread "With a warm heart,and tongue firmly in cheek....'.With all the 'dark cloud' topics,at the moment thought it would have been nice to see something different
Maybe I should have posted, some 'in situ' Sailor Moon photos instead.To warm you all up.
In terms of public space versus private space, there are signs around some of the roads surrounding Brisbane Airport that state something along the lines that those particular (signed) roads are not public, they are owned by the Brisbane Airport Corporation and that stopping along them (yellow lines) is prohibited and will result in a fine.
Looking at the photo Chris posted, it looks like the ‘tog was on the road verge near the Qantas Hangar, which as far as I know, is a public road, but I assume they were not approached at this location as they still have the photos?
In terms of public space versus private space, there are signs around some of the roads surrounding Brisbane Airport that state something along the lines that those particular (signed) roads are not public, they are owned by the Brisbane Airport Corporation and that stopping along them (yellow lines) is prohibited and will result in a fine.
Looking at the photo Chris posted, it looks like the ‘tog was on the road verge near the Qantas Hangar, which as far as I know, is a public road, but I assume they were not approached at this location as they still have the photos?
Cheers
Dennis
I am not sure where they were Dennis,Joel mentioned the Port of Brisbane,so think they got pulled up there.Will talk to him more about it when I see him next,and get a map location.His friend had camera in plan view when pulled up,and he was asked to delete certain photos.Be interesting to hear what and where it took place.Joel has been busy and looks like he might have an interview at channel 9 for some sort of job in an editing/archive section,so not sure when we will see him.
Just had a look at the Port Of Brisbane website which provides the following information re photography:
"Photographs at the port
The Port of Brisbane is a security regulated port and taking photographs in restricted port areas is not permitted. Restricted areas include waterside port operations like Patrick, DP World, AAT, Sunstate Cement, GrainCorp and QBH. If you would like to access these areas for photography or filming, you must approach the operator and seek their permission.
Photographing is only permitted in the following unrestricted areas:
Visitors Centre and Observation Cafe, Port Central Avenue
Port of Brisbane Shorebird Roost, Lucinda Drive, Port of Brisbane
River access point at the west end of Howard Smith Drive, Port of Brisbane
I am not sure where they were Dennis,Joel mentioned the Port of Brisbane,so think they got pulled up there.Will talk to him more about it when I see him next,and get a map location.His friend had camera in plan view when pulled up,and he was asked to delete certain photos.Be interesting to hear what and where it took place.Joel has been busy and looks like he might have an interview at channel 9 for some sort of job in an editing/archive section,so not sure when we will see him.
We once took a drive down to the Port of Brisbane to have a look at a US Navy vessel that was docked there. I spoke with one of the security people and he did explain (in a friendly and polite manner) that it was private land and covered by marine security regulations, blah, blah so we left with no photos.
Gee I am always pocking along the perimeter fence at Darwin airport never had a problem yet, and I do go up some tracks that lead directly to the RAAF base as well.
Big brother can watch all he likes, I have nothing to hide. Just hope he has a good book to read, otherwise he will die of total boredom watching my life.
,but obviously poking around,a security guard pulled them up,and made my son's mate delete all images of his 5DII.
I would have told the security where to go, in no uncertain terms 
And then if he forced me or had me arrested, I would have sued the arse off him" Hmmm.... 20k for a new Takahashi 150mmm sounds good 
Be like trying to ban guns in America.
They are making life difficult for us all.
I can just imagine the controllers of their overhead surveillance; Are they missile tubes gathered there in the field? 
