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iceman
20-04-2006, 06:37 AM
139.9c/L in Sydney today :(

Where will it end!?

Cost me $50 to fill up my small tank in my Hyundai Excel this morning.. I remember when it cost $30 to fill the same tank!

It's going to drive up prices of meat, groceries, fruit etc.. inflation will surely be on the rise soon.

astronut
20-04-2006, 06:49 AM
The only people benefitting from all of this are the overseas suppliers, the local oil companies and our state and federal governments:mad2:
The rest of us can just go fish!!!!!:tasdevil:

gaa_ian
20-04-2006, 06:52 AM
At 50 cents a litre there is a lot to be said for gas !

GrampianStars
20-04-2006, 06:53 AM
I now pay $97au per tank which gets me 550kms
has curtailed extras like going to dinner twice a week to only once
no big deal :shrug:

vespine
20-04-2006, 07:05 AM
Petrol prices have literally doubled within recent memory! I think it's ridiculous. It's making driving out to a dark sky site quite an expense :(

OneOfOne
20-04-2006, 07:49 AM
I remember when I first bought my Pajero and filled it for the first time, it cost $52...they didn't put much petrol in new cars 15 years ago either. I quickly converted it to gas, I think the prices were something like 50c vs 21c...oh the good old days. When I sold it, the price of gas was not much less than it is now, but petrol was around 70c. Now it costs me more to fill the Hyundai than it would have cost to run the Pajero on petrol.... But if I convert the Hyundai to gas, I won't have enough room for the scope:(

janoskiss
20-04-2006, 07:59 AM
When it runs out. I'd expect petrol prices to be going up till then. Probably over $1.50 by Christmas. But $1.60-$1.70 sounds more reasonable.

Roger Davis
20-04-2006, 08:01 AM
It's a world wide plot to stop the infestation of this planet by carbon based life forms! Or if you make it local, the government are promoting inbreeding of the species. OR they are promoting the use of petrol prior to the world release of a new Star Trek like "transporter". Geez this is fun! I could come up with a stack of these! Another world wide plot to reduce the travel between countries and hence lower the terrorist threat! The government are trying to reduce peoples savings so that they no longer live in the so called lucky country!

Striker
20-04-2006, 08:08 AM
I work in the car industry.......you can really see a huge difference in car sales now a days with all the small imports thriving.

IanW
20-04-2006, 08:12 AM
I rememeber being outraged when fuel hit all of 33c a litre back in the 70s.

If you think it's expensive now just wait till the USA has a go at Iran and or when peak oil hits in around 2012.

[1ponders]
20-04-2006, 08:25 AM
I can see cooking oil diesel becoming more and more popular

OneOfOne
20-04-2006, 08:45 AM
I remember back in the mid 70's when I started work, one of the guys I worked with had been working in his previous job on an internal combustion engine that ran on coal. It apparently pulverised the coal into a fine dust and injected it into some sort of combustion chamber. It is a pitty it hasn't taken off, you could store a months fuel when it is cheap in the garage! Or if you are going "off road" take a spare bag or two.

Robby
20-04-2006, 08:51 AM
$1.68/L for 91 octane here in NZ at the moment. Gone up 12c in the last 2weeks! Madness.!
Makes the news daily.. Government coffers as also smilling as the tax take (about 41%) has also gone up, but our roads a still crap! Tax on pertrol should be fixed rather than a %.
My 2c (or perhaps 12c) worth.
Cheers

ving
20-04-2006, 09:10 AM
a recent survey in the US showed that the majority of the population there wants hybrid cars... wonder why.
If anyone is giving them away i'll take one :)

I have payed more than that mike, but at least we dont have NZ prices :(
poor robby :(

Muddy Diver
20-04-2006, 10:17 AM
With the volume of fuel being purchased by the UK for a population some 3 -4 times the size Of Australia I attribute the price of around $2.00 - $2.40 AUD per litre:eyepop: to the local fuel companies and government duty. Not from the oil countries. Watch out Australia, we still have very favourable fuel prices here and I think the local suppliers are waking up to the profit they could squeeze out of us. I bet the prices don't fall as quickly when the price of a barrel eventually reduces.;) I'm lucky enough to have a company car and fuel card and feel sorry for all those who have to pay for their own fuel these days.

fremanwarrior
20-04-2006, 02:14 PM
My old man owned a servo in Brisbane 20+ years ago. I remember vividly prices of 49.9c per litre in 1983!

With more and more cars going 'Gas' you can bet your bottom dollar that the Gov will eventually tax that to the same level as the common fuel.

danielsun
20-04-2006, 03:58 PM
It's a corrupt world set up for the fat cats to leagally steal and they know that there's nothing anyone can do about it!!!!:mad2:

mick pinner
20-04-2006, 08:20 PM
it will continue to go up till around 2012 when peak oil will hit and then the Americans will freeze the remaining oil reserves in the middle east on the pretext of their military needing it to protect us all from the terrorists.

anthony2302749
20-04-2006, 08:41 PM
The “REVOLUTION BEGINS”, we silent major must stand up and demand change. For to long, politicians, minority groups and social engineers have had their way and have stuff this wonderful country.

For to long we have put up with Federal Tax (Introduced by the Hawk/Keating Gov) and GST on petrol (Introduced by the Howard Gov) which = 48.1 cents a litre. We as a society must say “No More”. We must empower the masses; we must tell them how much the government is s***wing them and enact change. Drive your car until it runs out of petrol, park it on the side of the road and walk home and don’t go to work and collect the dole and sit back and watch the country slide into recession. This will send a clear message to the politicians. They need people to work to keep the economy rolling and to do this people must be able to get to work.

The same thing applies to the Banking Industry. We should go to our boss and ask to be paid in cash, close our bank accounts and then take our money home and keep it in shoe box under our bed. With no one depositing money into the banks they can not slug us with fee and therefore can not make a profit. Here is a novel idea, what if every credit card holder and home loan holder in Australia refused to pay back their debt, what would the banks do; it would more then likely cost the banks more to recover the debt then to write it off.

Telstra is another company we must revolt against. They plan to remove public phones which is driven by the need of the public to have mobile phones. If you look out side the box, Telstra make more money out of mobile phone users then public phones (on an average mobile phone contract you may pay $22 a month and that is before you make a call. Using a public phone would only cost you a couple of $ not much a profit for Telstra).

Well it is time to get off my soap box and let the government and multi-national company s***w what little money I have left out of me, but remember “THE REVOLUTION IS COMING AND IT IS TIME FOR CHANGE.”

RAJAH235
20-04-2006, 10:32 PM
Anyone remember back in the 1960's when petrol went to 2 Shillings (20 cents) a gallon? I do. Boy did we scream then!. Can't see it getting much better very soon. :shrug: :D L.

h0ughy
20-04-2006, 10:38 PM
you've been standing in the back room again with the lid off the metho bottle again haven't you Anthony:D

But I must be there too, almost makes some sense:screwy:

[1ponders]
20-04-2006, 11:22 PM
Can anyone remember how much diesel used to be before ever man and his dog/ woman and her children bought a diesel 4X4. Diesel used to be a waste product of petroleum refining.

janoskiss
20-04-2006, 11:47 PM
http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/893Funny-thumb.gif
Must be Roger's special brew used for cleaning the Naglers. :lol:

johnno
21-04-2006, 03:36 AM
Hi All,

RAJAH,

I well remember the 2 Shillings,(20 cents a gallon),back in the Sixties,
In Fact I was a young Lad driving for Huttons Smallgoods,in Maitland,when the changeover took place,in 1966.

Regards.
John

Gargoyle_Steve
21-04-2006, 08:36 AM
LPG is also a waste by-product of petrol production, in fact they can't NOT produce it!!! If the oil companies don't collect it and transport it for sale they have to burn it off - usually recognisable as those great big long tubes that poke out of oil rigs and over the ocean with the huge jets of flame spewing forth.

Want a cheap alternative to all petro-chemical fuels - Did anyone see the 2 linked stories a while ago on Beyond Tomorrow about the separate Aussie & French inventors who have working usable vehicles that run on compressed air? Hard to believe, until you see it in action! These links give a very brief story synopsis:

http://www.beyondtomorrow.com.au/stories/ep17/aussieaircar.html

http://www.beyondtomorrow.com.au/stories/ep17/frenchaircar.html

ving
21-04-2006, 02:56 PM
VIVA LE REVOLUTION!

we hear ya! its all about the $$$ at the end of the day. sack 100 staff to keep share prices high for the share holders.... dont wory about unemployment

mickoking
21-04-2006, 03:12 PM
The spiraling cost of petrol was the motivation to get back into Motorbikes. I own a Hyosung GT 250 and it has a 17 litre tank and a range of approx 350-400kms depending on how hard I ride it :D I have a round journey to and from work of 70 Km's (350 a week) and my fuel cost for a week are approx $15-18. My EL Falcon which I hardly drive now cost's approx $70 a week to and from work.

Nuff said :thumbsup:

mickoking
21-04-2006, 08:44 PM
Funny that, The US has 4 large (permenant) bases now in Iraq. The US are in Iraq for good, and all for oil. We as the little guys are being screwed by forces well out of our control. Sorry to get political (show mercy mods) but democracy doesn't mean a thing nowadays.

There is some who think we are NOW at peak oil. There is still heaps of oil out there but extracting and refining it is going to be expensive.

Here are some pic's of my money saver :thumbsup:

norm
21-04-2006, 09:04 PM
Cost me $68 to fill the VT Commodore last night with the 4c discount (which is another scam in itself !!!).

If the US decide to make any pre-emptive strike against Iran, then petrol will spiral out of control, no 2 ways about it. If this happens then the global economy with go south with it. :(

I can only think the worse - a recession.

I hope George Bush and Co think carefully on this one.

Roger Davis
22-04-2006, 08:13 AM
Can't see anywhere on that bike for an 18" Obsession, can you??

danielsun
22-04-2006, 09:32 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

mickoking
22-04-2006, 04:27 PM
I once read in sky & telescope years ago of a dude who used to rock up to star parties on his 'bike with an ultra portable 250mm Dob.

If I need to transport my Dob I use my falcon, the bikes for commuting and having a ball :D

danielsun
22-04-2006, 05:29 PM
I sometimes miss my bike!! :( As well as being very economical (especially with petrol prices like this and rising) they also made traffic jams non existent.:)

wavelandscott
22-04-2006, 05:44 PM
So how does everyone feel about Biofuel?

In this instance I mean ethanol blends and biodiesol...

It is technologically possible (Brazil is a world leader) to convert many of the food crops grown into fuel and fuel additives and at the current price of oil the economics look okay...

One of the things that has amazed me has been how little ethanol is used by people in and around Sydney...if we simply diverted the grain and sugar that we export and converted them to fuel we would see a decrease in dependence on foreign oil but based on some models we would also reduce overall greenhouse emissions...same with oil seed crops and animal fats/cooking oil...all pretty easy to change into fuel...

mickoking
22-04-2006, 11:02 PM
Biofuel (Biodiesal) is a very good idea. Unfortinatley the powers that be don't seem to encourage the idea.

cahullian
22-04-2006, 11:22 PM
I bought a push bike from big w for $200 and it will save me around $2,000 a year on my fuel bill as it is about a 30km round trip to work 6 days a week.
Unfortunately my kids spend my savings on movies and dvd's

Mick
23-04-2006, 09:42 AM
Oil peak is more of a concern than prices the increase in oil prices are only the start, everything we depend on and use in our daily lives is reliant on oil especially the basics, water, shelter and food , when oil runs out our way of life will change for ever.

Spaced Out
23-04-2006, 03:14 PM
Sure beats giving it to Mr Howard but!!:)