pixinsight 1.6 released - for those that care ;)

[h0ughy]

just a quick note that pixinsight 1.6 has been released. Note now there is an extended trial period now of 45 days instead of 30Days.

http://pixinsight.com/forum/index.php?topic=1804.0 descripes the new features.

I am wrapped in this software - it is pretty good and i virtually exclusively use it for all of my processing - with the exception of resizing for the forum - use photoshop for that.

Give it a go, you will be glad you did. :thumbsup:


written and unauthorised by the photon party;):lol:

[Tilt]

I've found the old PixInsight LE to be quite handy, however since it's a bit dated (and no longer availabe?) I have been looking into purchasing the full version. Maybe it's time :)

[h0ughy]

Mate you wont know what hit you (i know i didnt) LOL. DBE is a dream, and there are heaps of other trick and tools that make life a lot easier.

[Omaroo]

I downloaded v1.6 the other day David, and it's a decent little upgrade. I've yet to get my teeth fully around PixInsight, and need to visit the tutorials properly one day.

The thing I do like about it is that once you've bought the commercial license, you are entitled to run it on as many devices (Win, OSX or Linux) that you like - and they all share the one license file legitimately.

[h0ughy]

That true Chris, I don’t know of many applications that do that? The video tutorials are gold - they helped me immensely

[Tilt]

Yes I really like the DBE feature, I have tinkered around with a fair bit just to understand how to get the best out of it. Originally I was being too brutal with the creation of the background image, subsequently it was stealing good data when I did the subtraction in Pixel Math. I have also noticed with each image it can be different too, so the level of DBE I applied to the previous image, may not necessarily work with the current image I'm working on. However, its still worth using :thumbsup:

I recently watched the video tutorials on the PixInsight website, and they go down deeper than my current level of processing skills - particularly the with the noise processing. This is a good thing though, as it will keep me quite busy with so much to learn :lol: Not to mention the load of other tools available in the software I'm still yet to discover.

Michael

[h0ughy]

for those that wish to trial the software go here http://pixinsight.com/trial/index.html

[RobF]

I'm 10 days into a trial licence, and pleasantly surprised to see 1.60 come out exactly on time with the image cal features promised. Still messy compared to DSS, but the image processing tools are awesome. Very impressive software.

Suspect I'll have to fork out when the time comes.
Was thinking of trialing CCDStack too, but suspect I have more to gain on the processing side than stacking/basic processing.

[h0ughy]

Rob,
I do own Images Plus, but the sad fact is i now stack in DSS and process in Pixinsight

[RobF]

I've never really taken the time to get into IP, but I think PI will be worth it just for the DBE, deconv and wavelet tools. Interface takes some getting used to, but seems to "feel right" too. Time will tell.

Have been watching your PI adventures with interest too David.

[h0ughy]

I have a new edition - a repro of Alan Meehan's NGC3324 (http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/attachment_browse.php?a=74655) . I am still learning and everytime you have a go its different:lol:

[alan meehan]

This is a very good program to use , but be cautious i have brought and paid for the licence 4 days ago and still have not recieved a word from them,have emailed them as well twice ,and iam still waiting.
ALAN

[h0ughy]

Al I have left a message on the forum for you - one of the moderators there or even Juan should see it

[Omaroo]

Yeah - don't worry Al - they'll get back to you. It took a couple of days for me when I bought the commercial license a few months ago. :thumbsup:

[Hagar]

I just upgraded my copy. Now all I have to do is learn how to drive it. So bloody complicated. Really hard to walk away from photoshop which I am used to and spend the time required to learn this one.

[Harryianpage]

Hi

Glad you have joined the Pi members club :welcome: and I am sure you will soon have it all learnt :thumbsup:

then you can show us all what can be done


Harry

[h0ughy]

ANswer from Juan


Re: Commercial PixInsight licenses per countries
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Hi h0ughy,

We have sent five duplicates of Alan's license instructions email; three from our @pixinsight.com corporate email accounts and two from an emergency Gmail account. What happens is that Alan's email is @yahoo.com.au, and all of our messages are systematically rejected. This has been happening for some time, but the different thing is that now Yahoo is also rejecting our Gmail messages. Oh well...

If you could ask Alan to please provide us with a different (not Yahoo) email address, you would save me the task of sending him his license instructions via ordinary mail.

We definitely have a serious problem with Yahoo. I'm going to include a note on the purchase page; there is already one on the trial license request page.

Thanks, and I really apologize for the inconvenience.

[alan meehan]

Well that problem was solved as you can see its all Yahoo fault.Now comes the fun part learning to use this new program cant wait ,a whole new learning curve .
ALAN

[Harryianpage]

Hi

For pi lovers there is the new ( Very unfinished ) harrys user guide at
http://www.harrysastroshed.com/pixuser/pixuserhome.html

Still lots to add , but give me a few weeks :thumbsup:

Harry

[Hagar]

Thanks Harry this looks great. I am at work at the moment and have just printed it out so I will now make the effort to work through this and give it a real go.

Thanks Again.

[RobF]

The reality is you're probably responsible for selling 2 out of every 3 copies of PixInsight at the moment I think Harry, your tuts are THAT good. Many thanks again for all that hard work, and please keep them coming.

[loc46south]

I am halfway into a test drive of PixInsight - So far I have found it difficult to get my head around but with a bit of patience it is starting to produce the goods - at test image of M20
http://www.pbase.com/loc46south/image/84243681/large

There are still a lot of faults with the image especially the stars need fixing and the colour noise in the fainter areas of the nebula but that is my lack of experience with the software - it's a keeper for me and I can only see things improving with age.

Cheers
Geof

[Harryianpage]

Hi Rob

Only 2 out 3 :P , I must try harder sorry


Harry

[h0ughy]

Geof nothing like contiunually beating your previous personal Best. Keep up your good work. It is over saturated but if you did a repro i think it has promise. ;) of course one of harry's videos does explain a lot of what you need:thumbsup:

[loc46south]

Hi Houghy - many of the problems with the image I could have fixed in PhotoShop no probs, but the purpose of the exercise was to see what I could produce with PixInsight. What I have found is that once mastered the software will more than likely produce very good results but in the initial stages the lack of real infomation about the basic workings of the software make it VERY VERY HARD WORK. If it hadn't of been for the extensive video resource and working examples that Harry Page has created I would have tossed the whole project after the first hour and gone back to Photoshop.

Geof

[h0ughy]

quite true Geof, and in one way i originally did that. it took me three attempts to getto know some of this product - with some big help from Eddie Trimarchi - he gave me the first real hint. Harry's videos topped it off

[Omaroo]

I agree with what's said so far about gettng to know it. Pleiades would not do themselves any harm if they came down from the rafters and explained WHAT "object-oriented approach" meant to the common user, and WHY it was so good in layman's terms. If you're into software design you'd know, but if all you want to do is perform a few basic tasks on an image file, it would be good to know the "why", "what" as well as the "how". Sorry, but just telling us in their intros that "it is better" than a linear workflow and that you'd never go back to standard software after you got to know PixInsight doesn't do much for all of us unless it is really explained in a side by side pros and cons argument.

[h0ughy]

quite true - i sort of align them with Mac users:P:lol: but in their own way they are unique because they are heavily involved with the development of the package - when users like us come along we are mesmerised by it all and your right - we don't understand where they are coming from. That is why the videos from Harry are a godsend, after watching those i went back and re watched the earlier ones produced to show is the new and specific functions Pixinsight has. I think it is well worth the journey:D

[Harryianpage]

Hi People

I agree that sometime Pixinsight runs a competition to find the most obscure names possible for their tools.
Its good to hear what people think of pixinsight as sometimes I / We forget what it was at the start :D and If I can improve the old website to help I will

Saying this some of the complex uses of photoshop are Alien to me and skillful users of photoshop tend to forget that it also is very hard to learn, well for me I gave up on photoshop:eyepop:
Keep the faith

Harry

[loc46south]

Hi Pixinsighters - As an interested bystander in this discussion I think there are a few points that need to be taken into consideration.

1 Like it or not PixInsight is in direct competition with PhotoShop.
2 Like it or not most Astro Imagers use PhotoShop.
3 If it is to succeed Pixinsight must attract most of it customers away from P/S

Most astro imagers are not expert users of Photoshop nor do they understand the full working of the software ( I place myself firmly in that catagory) but 2 features that are almost always used are the selection tools (colour range select, magic wand, losso ect) and Layers.

The ability to select a part of the image, then process it and finally blend it into the finished image has become part and parcel of the way we compile our pictures - and lets face the fact most of us are in the game of making pretty pictures. As far as I can ascertain Pixinsight is unable to perform these basic functions without resorting to complicated pixelmath

Pixinsight has some great features and possibly a future in astro processing but at the moment it is very much Beta Software, it lacks some the basic processing tools most imagers use. I have bought a copy and will continue to play with it (I'm a software addict) but for the forseeable future I will continue to do most of my processing in PhotoShop.

Cheers
Geof

[Harryianpage]

Hi Geof

I am not going to get into a photoshop / pixinsight discussion other than to say they are different :thumbsup:.

The way pixinsight approaches its processing is different to other packages and the use of masks to select area to control selected areas can take a bit of practice:confused2:
Where I do agree with you is that a form of layers is going to be needed and is indeed in the pipeline ( Do not know when ) As I know you have put your desires on the pixinsight wishlist and perhaps we can get things moving for you

Anyway for me I will continue to use my Beta pixinsight for the majority of my processes

Regards Harry

[Dennis]

Hey H0ughy

Just downloaded and installed the 45 day free trial package. I really don’t know why I bothered with this preliminary step; I’m bound to purchase the full blown package from what I have seen!

It looks a very functionally rich application; I hope it can turn my sow’s ears into silk purses! LOL!

Cheers

Dennis

[h0ughy]

Dennis, please download all the video tutorials that harry page has done and watch them - they are brilliant and show you a lot of what is possible, then download the videos that Juan has put together - thats really in depth and gives a real inkling of what the package can do. you cant go wrong then repro to your hearts content

[Dennis]

Thanks Dave – did you see that wide field Sword of Orion processing tutorial using an image taken by someone with a nom de plume of Mr Houghy!:lol:

Cheers

Dennis

[Phil]

Can any one please tell me how much this software is as it is in Euros.
Thanks
Phil

[h0ughy]

just do the currency conversion about 242 dollars - 171 euros