SAMSUNG LED technology for TV's

[h0ughy]

I was at a bit of a quandary as to where to place this post, can be entertainment, can be computer, can be imaging software processing………….

But I love the new LED TV technology from Samsung (hey, maybe they could donate a new 101 or 116cm tv to us poor imagers…LOL). At prices between $3500 and $4200 for the 116cm model they are pricy, but they are heaps lighter, brighter and the contrast ratio is 3,000,000:1 not a measly 3000:1 or 30000:1 . Technology like this is simply amazing, the screen width is 1920 * 1080 – I would go for the 101 if I got one so that the pixel size is a wee bit smaller, but surely the clarity of the images would be breathtaking. OK I can see Strongman Mike groaning (no mike its not the 1000:1 contrast ration of the one I have LOL). I had a sqiz at a few of these at JB hifi and honestly the only reason I didn’t get one was the fact the boss would kill me. Maybe the old teac one I have might die – with some help LOL just transfer the one from up the back inside and get this one for myself. The other thing that really impressed me was how thin they are, and the lack of heat they emitted. You stand near a plasma or normal LCD tv and get roasted but these feel cooler. Not sure of the power consumption (with the leds you would imagine it to be less?) but it will be on the list of “nice “ things to get next year (and beyond):whistle:

[erick]

About time too! Now to wait five years until the price comes down into my range :sadeyes:




Do you mean LCD rather than LED?

[h0ughy]

ahh yes

[erick]

My old Akai CRT is still just struggling along - the kids have that back at the old house. A 30 year old Sony Trinitron CRT is there too - still works - sort of! We bought a lovely LG LCD for our new abode - big for us, but small relative to what was in the showroom :eyepop:I just love all the inputs and outputs - direct VGA in, brilliant!

[Omaroo]

Yeah - very cool indeed.

http://www.samsung.com/au/led/

I wish that my rather large Panasonic Viera plasma were old and decrepit - but the damn thing's brand new! No excuse to replace it (love it to death anyway). :doh:

[mswhin63]

Technology is great but never liked Samsung support. Just about every Samsung product we purchaced took a hell a lot of time to receive support if any.

Rather wait for another brand.

[h0ughy]

Oh well, Samsung or not - it’s still wonderful to see. Now if we can get a $4500 stimulus package.....

[outwestwa]

The new LED Technology is being used in some of the new mini laptops already, (LED power-saving backlight technology to provide better color fullness and brightness to elevate the total quality of imagery. Furthermore, the lower power consumption can offer a longer operating time up to 9hrs). this type of battery life will be brilliant for dark sky sites and astro camp work

[green1706]

LED TV (http://www.led-tvs.info/) is a term used by Samsung (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung) to describe its line of LCD (liquid crystal display) TVsthat use LED backlighting.
LED-backlit LCD TVs do differ from conventional LCD TVs in some important areas:
1- They can produce a very bright image and deep blacks (doesn't work for Edge-LED
2- With Edge-LED lighting they can be extremely slim.
3- They can offer lower power consumption.
4- They can offer a wider colour gamut, especially when RGB-LED backlighting is used.
:welcome:

[wasyoungonce]

Spot on...they are being marketed as "new technology" with no mention of "LCD" but in fact they are LCD panels that use LEDs to provide backlight.

Now this "LED technology" should improve blacks as they can selectively be switched on/off (LEDs off..gives better blacks levels on the panel) but the LEDS themselves have largish physical dimensions (but a lot smaller than current backlights) so there will be some improvement over current discharge tube backlighting.

But they are really LCDs dressed as new technology. Talk to salesmen about them & they will probably not mention "LCD" in the discussion at all....Hmmm marketing...don't you love it.

Edit:

forgot to say there is still some confusion as to whether the LEDs are edge mounted or rear mounted (WRT the LCD panel)..I think they are edge mounted.

[Colsmith]

I currently own a 26" LG CRT, which, I have to admit works just fine, however I decided it was time to go Hi Def. So after some research on the internet I decided on a 46" Series 7 Samsung LCD. Jumped into my budget spreadsheet and made some adjustments to accomodate the $2500, then went to look at one at Hardly Normal.

It looked great :) Then I looked at the 50", 52" :D Then I saw the LED:eyepop:.

I'm now playing around with my budget again (do I really need health insurance?).

Colin.

[g__day]

So did Canon ever bring our SED or only in Japan? Next steps lasers and 3D displays I guess!

[Mimo]

SED unfortunately died. The technology was promising and the quality of the display was outstanding. The accountants and marketing execs, I would say, saw to its demise :( .

Something to note about Samsung LED technology. As has already been stated, it is an LCD TV with LED edge backlighting. Better than the traditional fluoro backlighting but still with some of the problems associated with edge lighting. More exciting and less widely known is the Sharp technology. Instead of using edge lighting they use multiple LEDs spread directly behind the LCD panel. I have not seen this yet but I expect it to be far superior to the Samsung offering.

For all you people out there still using a CRT TVs, high definition aside, it still has a far superior picture quality to LCDs (even with LED backlighting). Only Plasma can duplicate the brightness and contrast ratios that CRTs offer. Together with a much slower pixel response rate, inferior brightness, poor contrast and narrower viewing angles it has surprised me that LCD has made the inroads that it has as compared to plasma. Ahhh...the power of marketing.....

LCDs have lower (with LEDs much lower) power consumption than plasma. That is a significant feature in these green conscious times.

Was that more that 2 cents worth :P .

[coldspace]

Deeper contrast with darker blacks,

This would be perfect for displaying my Mallincam images. These cameras love dark blacks to get the most out of images.
I love my 800 line colour crt for displaying the video feed but these LED displays look interesting.
I know someone who just bought one and raves about it, might have to get them to lug it over one night to display a 46 inch version of M16 on it one night.
These new TV's sound great.

Regards Matt

[Mimo]

Matt,

Go plasma. Your images will look even better with true blacks and even better contrast. As a bonus, plasma is cheaper than LCD.

[wasyoungonce]

Well...that's true for a 768 horizontal panel...not really so for a full 1080P Aldi Bauhn panel at $999. :lol:.

Although...no question the blacks will be better. It's always a trade off.

[Mimo]

Can't argue with the Aldi price :rolleyes: .

Dollar for dollar and feature for feature in the high end panels, plasma is the go. Nonetheless, both look good. It's just a matter of degree.

BTW I have no vested interested in either technology. This comes purely from my own knowledge having been in the industry for many years.

[coldspace]

Tks for the tip mate,

Any recommendation of a brand in Plasma that has the darkest blacks?
I have a Panasonic 50inch viera in the loungeroom thats has awesome picture but its wall mounted and too big to lug outside to try with the video camera.
I have been using an 800 line 14 inch hi-res colour CRT that is excellent for displaying images from the Mallincam but am after a bigger/ better panel with lots of contrast control to mount in my observatory that I am building at the moment.
Would like a panel around 32 inches but my understanding is plasma only comes in 42 inch or larger.
Any sujestions?
I am friends with a Retravision manager so might sting him up to bring home a few panels from display stock to try out one night.

Regards Matt.

[Mimo]

Matt,

For panels under 42" your options are LCD or.... well that's it.

Plasma panels under 42" did exist but now if there are any about they are the cheapy models from China.

Good luck in your hunt....

Mimo