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vindictive666
22-09-2005, 10:44 AM
hello all

i am after some ideas really as ive got service pack 2 for windoze xp pro and i was wondering if it is a good a idea to upgrade to said product as ive hear a few conflicting stories, whats youre experiance ?

:thumbsup: :confused: ;) :confuse2:

netwolf
22-09-2005, 11:40 AM
Hi Vindictive,

I think the reasons for upgrading far outweigh an conflicting stories. Ther are many criticcal Security updates in SP2 that are needed. If you build a XP Pro pc with no service pack and connect it via dialup or direct broadband to the internet with no firewall , you will very shortly see many good reasons for appying criticle updates and service packs. The worms are still out ther bouncing around cyberspace from unprtoected machine to unprotected machine. SP2 has many more patches agains such worms and other nasties out there.

Things you need on XP
1. Sp2 + any post sp2 criticle updates.
2. Turn on autmatic updates, you can chose to let it advise you and then install.
3. 1 Good antivirus software, if you can not afford one get the free ones at least.
4. MS Antispyware beta + Spybot, either or both.
5. Firewall. If you have a Broadband router than you are safe to some degree. But check if your router is just for sharing or also includes a firewall. You can test with shields up online at https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2.
6. Steve Gibbs site is also full of some excelent tips http://www.grc.com/default.htm

I am sure others can add there things.

But consider it this way, wearing a bullet proof vest maybe cumbersome but it protects you. Same with SP2, its not perfect but it will do the job.

Regards

ving
22-09-2005, 11:50 AM
i have it and its done no harm.
better safe than sorry i guess.

Robby
22-09-2005, 12:02 PM
SP2 fine for me except for Bluetooth support.
SP1 was excellent with Bluetooth, but SP2, while it still works, requires much more gigery pokery to get it going...
Cheers

RB
22-09-2005, 12:31 PM
I've had no problems at all.
I got a SP2 disc from Microsoft instead of downloading it and installed it on all the computers.

Highly Recommended.

;)

RB

Striker
22-09-2005, 01:01 PM
Yes install SP2.

It fixes a lot more problems then it creates.

acropolite
22-09-2005, 01:27 PM
John, I wouldn't advise auto update unless you have broadband, otherwise as the others say it won't hurt. AVG antivirus is available free, and unless you want to deliberately nobble your new toy stay away from Norton's products.

h0ughy
22-09-2005, 01:43 PM
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RB
22-09-2005, 02:57 PM
I don't understand Phil, what do you mean by "nobble".
What's your experience with Nortons, have you had a bad encounter?

:shrug: :help3: :scared:

RB

RAJAH235
22-09-2005, 03:01 PM
Np with SP2 on XP home. Must haves > Sygate firewall, (disable Windows one, when you get SP2), AVG, Ad-aware, Spybot, etc etc. freebies, & Mailwasher Pro., (about $35 from NZ).
Do weekly/f'nightly update check @ M$ & D/L the malicious software tool as hOughie has mentioned.
acropolite, ditto for Nortons. :thumbsup: :D L.

vindictive666
23-09-2005, 10:58 AM
thanks for the replies people ive just finished installing sp2 and no probs sofar

allso had to download an additional 25mb of hotfixes so my system is uptodate sofar (fingers crossed for no problems)

iam running 2 antivirus monitors and 2 firewalls ive had situations where one or the othe caught intrusions ect ect


:thumbsup: :D

netwolf
23-09-2005, 11:58 AM
A most excelent website for autmating installations and general MS OS information.
http://www.msfn.org/
and forums
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?

a Thread on Hotfixes and where to get them.
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=31886

Regards

RAJAH235
23-09-2005, 09:28 PM
Vin, There's the possibility of 2 firewalls conflicting if both are running. Best to disable the windows one.
Best version of free one is here > http://207.33.111.31/spf/spf5.5b2710.exe
It's the older, more stable version from Sygate.
HTH. :D L.