Vista is dead to me.

[Tandum]

That's it, I've had enough. Vista blue screened on me recently, forcing me to reinstall due to error F4, some unknown kernel error, then after a clean install, IE stopped showing images and started showing red X's instead. You can't reinstall IE you need to reinstall vista, how stupid is that.... Now Photoshop has stopped with some error code that I wasn't even bothered looking up.

There is no hardware problem, all of it checks out ok, it's just that Vista sux..

I'm backing up the machine now and xp is going on this box for the first time.

I admit defeat, vista has got the better of me, I've had enough and don't want to deal with it anymore :thumbsup:

[h0ughy]

sounds like you have a hardware issue - probably the processor or memory

[gregbradley]

I switched from Vista to XP to run all my astro gear.

I couldn't get half of my gear to work and everything was a real
battle.

All the astro stuff seems setup to handle XP well.

There is also a Service Pack 1 for Vista that is supposed to
have addressed its compatibility issues. Although when you
go to their site to download it, the site is fairly incomprehensible and hard to tell
if in fact you have downloaded Service Pack 1. Windows
Update seems to take over and it only shows a long list
of updates mostly to do with security and doesn't even call it Service Pack 1 even though
Microsoft refers to it as Service Pack 1. I doubt Service Pack 1
changes much for us though although I could be wrong.

I agree - give Vista the flick, its a failed Microsoft experiment.

Microsoft seem to have lost the plot and maybe a few idiots in the
Company need to given the boot.

Greg.

[acropolite]

I had a similar problem with a machine at work, the OS wanted to re-register, everything else looked OK. After a day's work coaxing the system to re-register and doing a backup, I found it was a ram problem causing corruption to write on the HDD. A replacement stick of ram, a complete reload and all was sweet. I suspect that Vista is less tolerant of hardware faults than XP was.

[RB]

I'm doing everything I can to avoid Vista !

Sorry to hear about your problems.

:(

[Kevnool]

When i brought my new toshiba lappy it came with vista so 1st up was install of starry night that was a no, it would not look at it so i waltzed back to the shop god love em and i said not good enough i want my beloved xp and i got it..........yey no probs since ........i only want starry night to work......cheers Kev.

[JethroB76]

The only problem I have had on my vista machine was with Starry Night; everything else no problems

[Hagar]

I have been using Vista for over a year no and haven't had any problems that couldn't be fixed by going into the properties of the exe file and going into compatability and checking run as administrator and run in xp compatability. To load starry night you need to do the same with the setup file. Easy and in my opinion way more stable than XP.

[GTB_an_Owl]

I'm gunna go with h0ughy, but be a bit more specific - MEMORY problem

geoff

[Barrykgerdes]

I don't like Vista also but when you get used to it and find all the versions of you favourite programs that work with it and new drivers. It is not all that bad but very slow on 32bit computers with only 512MB of memory. Especially those cheap Acer laptop's that came with Vista Home Basic.

I managed to find a back up program "Acronis" that made a HDD image as my "Drive Image" doesn't work with Vista. I then got a larger HDD, partitioned it suitably with F32 partions but remembering that Vista requires an NTFS partition. Installed Windows 98-2e on Drive C:, XP SP3 on drive D: then put the Vista image back on drive E:. With drive F: and G: as general storage and holders for drive images to make a multi boot computer. Works perfectly now although When running Vista it is always appears as drive C:

By the way to be able to get Vista back onto the computer I had to apply a little trick of using a Vista disk with XP to start an advanced installation, nominating the partition to be used for installation. This gives the necessary boot.ini now in the boot sector. Once this was done I was able to restore the image from XP with Acronis without bother.

Windows 98 gives me a DOS capability for program manipulation. XP runs as well as on my main computer and Vista allows me to test programs for Vista compatability. I also increased the RAM to 1.5GB and edited the UAC . This more than doubled the access speed to vista. It now starts in 1 1/2 minutes instead of 4 1/2 minutes. XP is up and running in less than a minute.

However I won't change from XP for normal operation. It took me three years to go to XP but when it first came out I definitely prefered Windows 98-2e. Then some of the newer programs and features required a mandatory XP SP2 so I gradually acclimatised to XP.

Barry

[vindictive666]

i was wondering what ever happened to the

saying "user friendly computers" ? :)


regards john

[Kevnool]

Doug my friend i,m gunna have to have a yarn with you.....cheers Kev.

[Tandum]

Sorry, ran memtest overnight a couple of times with no errors.
Xp is on and it's just fine.

[g__day]

I dual boot Win XP and WinXP 64 bit - Vista blows!

[Kevnool]

I,m interested in this Doug.
So before you install Starry night onto Vista which it wont for me .......... Your saying that before the actual install onto vista that you need to tick the box in the compatabilty tab on the exe file from the disc before the install ? or copy the disc to the computer then run it in compatability mode from there ?
cheers Kev.

[KenGee]

I'm a IT guy have got vista at home, and have managed to over come just about every problem..Gave up on Autodome. Will not run it at work though, then again there i don't like PC much. Give me nonstop anyday.

[acropolite]

I must admit to hating Vista but, after hearing Chris (Omaroo) extolling the virtues of Vista 64 bit and CS3 on Quad core machines, I built a machine, at this stage it has only 4G of Ram but it flies with CS3, adobe bridge was so slow on the old XP machine that I rarely used it, on the Vista box after it's done it's initial seach and cached thumbnails it really flies, I opened up 20 full res JPG's to PS in one hit, each loaded rapidly and I was easily able to switch between images instantaneously.

[Omaroo]

Great to hear Phil. As said in numerous discussions here and elsewhere - give Vista what it needs and it flies beautifully. Don't, and it's possibly a lesson in frustration.



You do that.

[Spanrz]

After all the years of Microsoft saying "Vista does work" obviouslly to keep a good morale for all the users, I read an online article the other week, with Microsoft using a spin doctor to say "We are making Windows 7, we'll try to keep it best as ever, but we understand the problems that exist in Vista"

They basically denied for a long time, that it was crap. Now they have finally undertood that Vista has it problems (and they can't be fixed) and maybe they should have woken up to what people were saying about it.

They are apparently dumbing down Windows 7.
Vista was just so bloatware savy (you need this and you need this and that to be running).

As said above, Starry Night and all has to be run in XP compatibilty mode. That's just crazy. An advanced OS should automatically dumb it self down to run it.
In the tone of Dr. Phil "What were you thinkin'".

I have Vista on a near brand new laptop. The wife hates it and so do I (the OS).
And it's very slow, so much bloatware on it, it's crazy.
We have discussed on wiping it, for an XP install, but haven't got that far yet to do it.

Any salesman that sells you a laptop saying that Vista is better than sliced bread, I think he needs a new job.:screwy:
As Microsoft have relented now and said "we're sorry, we told a big white lie".

[Omaroo]

If you wouldn't mind, please supply the verifiable source. Means nothing without one.

After working for several computer multinationals I'm pretty certain that Microsoft (and companies like it) would never admit liability publicly - ever.

[AlexN]

I dont run an XP system at all any more... I find vista is 100% stable if kept up to date and provided you feed it RAM like theres no tomorrow..

Robin is an IT consultant, Im sure he's gone through hell and back trying to get it up and running without a problem, and to be honest, I think its system specific.. I think while each individual piece of hardware might be fine, and their specific drivers may be very robust, I think that in some situations, certain hardware + their drivers dont interact properly in the Vista environment...

I think its really luck of the draw.. My desktop, never had a problem.. My notebook took some doing to get drivers for it, but once that was all done and under control, its been flawless....

[Shawn]

Well my daughter has a Vista Lappy , with a far faster CPU and more RAM than my desktop.. And whilst Vista looks very cool when its up and running... My desktop can boot to XP, be shut shut down and restarted and usable again , before the lappy is usable on the first boot... the lappy has designed for Vista stickers all over it... So, Ive never even tried it...and cant comment...:whistle:

[Tandum]

Gezz guys .. let it die.

I don't understand why people are so militant about software. It seems almost religious for some.

Fingers crossed for Windows 7 in August I guess.

[multiweb]

:rofl:Sooo true. People need to get out more. Get a notepad and a pencil, see how it works for you, then try Microsoft products again and see if it makes any difference with your workflow efficiency. :rofl:

[Omaroo]

LOL! Hey Robin - I believe it was you that posted this with the title "Vista is dead to me". You reckon that this was not going to raise some sentiment?:lol: Red flag at a bull...

Like it or not, I guess that these days a great part of our lives revolve around our choice of software and the way that it runs for us. It isn't difficult to see why some might become a little "militant" over it. For hat it's worth, I still can't understand the level of "hate" that people have over this product. Seems irrational to me yet I'm sure that there are lots of very frustrated people out there who think the opposite.

To coin a recent poster - I'm not going to waste my money on Windows 7. I'll wait until the DVD comes out! LOL! :rofl:

[astroron]

This is not to denigrate Vista, but a friend of mine has installed ULEAD 10 on his Toshiba Laptop,it was originaly on widows XP.
The problem is when he makes movies with music, the movie plays OK but there is no sound.
The Question is? is ULEAD 10 XP specific?
Does anybody have any experience of this?

[Zuts]

Hi,

I agree with Chris. I put Vista on my daughters laptop well over a year ago. It works fine and no complaints. Youtube, games, msn, tablets for sketching and so on.....

As for me I run a T40 with XP for my astro stuff, again no problems, i would use vista but since all my software is currently running under XP and since a t40 is not a racehorse why do it?

Both OS's are fine for what you can do with them and i dont see a problem with either.

As far as I am concerned whatever works for you is fine by me :)

Cheers
Paul

[Zuts]

The way I understand it Microsoft introduced a new driver model in Vista to increase stability. MS has no control over how third parties write their software so they moved the driver API's from kernel space to user space to make them more stable. In kernel space a driver can crash the OS, in user space it JUST CANT.

So if ulead drivers are written for XP then they probably cant work under Vista.

Cheers
Paul

[astroron]

Thanks Paul, I thought that was the case.

[tornado33]

Because I use lots of memory, 8 gb of it, in my Quad core box I neded a 64 bit o/s and chose Vista 64. Its very stable, far more so then my old XP32bit. I did try Vista32 on my older system and wasnt overly impressed, but vista64 on my new box is very slick.
Yes, being x64 soem hardware doesnt work. My Q guider for example wont work as there arent x64 drivers available yet. However I use that on my XP laptop anyway. My 450D works great with Vista64 but the modded 350D wont. Iris software works well with Vista but is only single threaded though still faster then my old system. Im hoping they may release a multithreaded version someday.
Scott