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xelasnave
24-08-2022, 02:06 PM
My daughter has suggested a parts list and I post it here in the hope that we get guidance.

This is my/ our effort to build something to be fast wnd efficient for astro photos...

Deep Sky Stacker, Startools, Photoshop..maybe Pixinsite layer...

I am interested in the fastest stacking and hope to stack huge numbers of subs approach...

Any ideas greatly appreciated.


I hope the list appears as a photo.

Alex

redbeard
24-08-2022, 02:44 PM
That will be a good system.
I would swap the m.2 drive for a WD black version

Good luck.

multiweb
24-08-2022, 03:22 PM
If you use CCD Stack you need a lot of RAM but PixInsight has a different approach loading each sub separately and releasing memory as it goes during registration so much easier on the system. You just need more disc space. A fast CPU will sure help with data rejection and stacking though.

KISSMAD
24-08-2022, 03:32 PM
The RAM isn't compatible with the motherboard.
https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-x570-e-gaming-wifi-ii-model/helpdesk_qvl_memory/

oska
24-08-2022, 03:47 PM
I would agree with Damien on upgrading the SSD. Samsung pro (not evo) are good too.
Consider strongly getting 2 (good ones: NVME-PCIe4). One for OS and one for Astro image processing. You only need a 1G for OS but get a 2G for astro

go for the 5950x, twice the cores. Cores are what will get you the most boost in your workflow. When grinding data I can afford to wait most times rather than walking away from the PC for a "while"

I would recommend an AIO cooler (3 fan). Arguable quieter and generally better.

10 fans! that's the spirit! You might need a fan controller to tame them

that MB is very exe (IMHO), unless it has something special you need?
https://www.umart.com.au/product/gigabyte-x570s-gaming-x-am4-atx-motherboard-60113

Also you may not have considered a monitor: https://www.umart.com.au/product/samsung-32in-uhd-60hz-va-freesync-monitor-lu32j590uqexxy-44162
Get 2 if you can - my old man eyes love mine

Get a larger case rather than smaller if you have the desk space, the more cat swinging space the better. Try not to keep the PC on the floor, they suck heaps of dust on the floor (relatively)

With you penchant for loud palettes I'm kinda disappointed you didn't go full ARGB :D

xelasnave
24-08-2022, 04:47 PM
Thank you Damien That sounds good to me.
Alex

xelasnave
24-08-2022, 04:49 PM
Thank you Marc. Do I need a better CPU? What do you suggest.?

Alex

xelasnave
24-08-2022, 04:51 PM
Thank you Bruce I will look into that.
Alex

xelasnave
24-08-2022, 04:58 PM
Thank you John..I understand some of the things you covered and will pass all onto my daughter who is the brains in the family and will do the build. I would but I am far to clever and will busy myself reading the warranties and makes usa of my experience.:lol::lol::lol:

I have the case and as I did not want to throw it out thought to use it:D

Thanks for everything and I look forward to chatting to you in person.

Alex

rustigsmed
24-08-2022, 09:19 PM
Yes not a bad build. Could use a cheaper motherboard, as suggested by John. I would absolutely stick with the noctua cooler but personal choice of course. Ram should work but might not hit advertised speeds (when not specifically listed). I would go for a better CPU maybe a 5900x or a 5950x depending on budget. Go with the better nvme as suggested as the drive the os is on - likely won't be upgraded. The 10tb is nice but you could save money here for CPU etc and add to storage later on. Missing a case? I think the linked motherboard doesn't have WiFi - in case she goes for it.

Cheers

glend
25-08-2022, 01:29 AM
Alex, honestly I have never been a fan of partscaster type computers. Sure if your the ultimate computer junkie and get off on bragging about your components, it might excite you. I will suggest you just go out and buy a good high powered gaming computer system, which will be delivered to you fully integrated and be more than you need. Yes you might want to think about a backup drive, but that's all I see any imager needing.

xelasnave
25-08-2022, 06:19 AM
Thanks Russell all this advice is fantatic.

Alex

leon
25-08-2022, 06:20 AM
Hi Alex sounds exciting, however I might have to agree with Glen for build or not to build.:shrug:

Recently with the help of a very experienced IIS member I too built a new Desktop, with components suggested by this member.

It was exciting buying all the bits and pieces needed to do the job, and when I had everything I slowly put it together.:):)

After much communication and suggestions from my friend I eventually got it all together and pressed that button, if fired up at a 100 miles an hour and all was well.

I now have a great super fast machine, :eyepop: something I have never experienced before and am so happy with it and all the advice and help i got from my mate, plus the experience learned.

To do it again, well not real sure, as it was a bit nerve racking not being experienced I wonder if i would not just buy a complete fully assembled machine as Glen suggested.

Don't get me wrong, I am happy with the end result, but wonder if i would let someone else do all the worrying. :shrug:

Just my two cents worth.

Leon :thumbsup:

xelasnave
25-08-2022, 06:26 AM
Yes ordinarily I would agree but I already have the case :D

There are a couple of reasons why besides having the case ..my daughter recently built herself one and she enjoyed doing the build and I think she may get something out of it and , well you know how I am about having things that someone important to me has built, so there is that aspect. Plus my neighbour will be impressed ;)

Alex

xelasnave
25-08-2022, 06:46 AM
Glens advice is precious to me...most of my possessions are a result of Glens guidance:lol::lol::lol:...:thumbsup :.. cameras, scopes, observatory and sports car :eyepop: all Glens input..things to me only have value if I link them to someone important to me....and I also greatly value your words Leon as you obviously have a wealth of real world experience....however as I keep saying I already have the case:D...a fabulous saving not to be ignored:P...and my daughter will benefit I expect from the additional experience of another build under her belt, but most of all when I sit at that computer money will not buy the pride and joy I will have each and every time I use it knowing my daughter built it and all my friends here involved themselves in the plan...

And I know beyond doubt that these attributes money just can't buy and I will have a computer that is very precious and to me way past any value in terms of cash...

Alex

rustigsmed
25-08-2022, 11:35 AM
Some places also will put your selected components together for you for a price. So if you were set on your particular parts they would put that all together. This can often be worth it as off the shelf pre builts often have inferior power supplies and slow ram.

Eg pccasegear here https://www.pccasegear.com/products/41773/pccg-full-custom-system-assembly-service-2-year-warranty

xelasnave
25-08-2022, 05:58 PM
Thanks again it is always worthwhile having a plan B.

My daughter has ammended the parts list and suggest a new case which I will present when I am able.

Alex

xelasnave
26-08-2022, 07:29 AM
My daughter has talked me into a new case (antec 1100 v2) and amended the parts list for comment.

We are totally depending on your expert advice.

Alex

oska
26-08-2022, 12:45 PM
You'll love it :thumbsup:

KISSMAD
26-08-2022, 04:57 PM
RAM isn't compatible with the motherboard!

xelasnave
26-08-2022, 06:20 PM
Thanks very much appreciated.
Alex

xelasnave
27-08-2022, 09:11 AM
What about this parts list.. anything wrong here or could be improved

KISSMAD
27-08-2022, 11:29 AM
The RAM is compatible with the motherboard. 8)

xelasnave
27-08-2022, 12:28 PM
Thank you Bruce ..is there a single thing ( or more) that you would like to see changed.

Alex

KISSMAD
27-08-2022, 12:41 PM
More RAM.

oska
27-08-2022, 12:47 PM
If you wanted to add anything extra, and get an improvement in real world performance, you could add a 2nd good M2 ssd at 2GB for a "working" disk for your current projects. 64G of memory wouldn't hurt either. Being an older "gentleman" myself, the benefit of large screen(s) cannot be overstated. 32in+ non-curved, std 4k monitors (don't need fancy gaming features for astro). If you do, use good certified 8k Display Port cable(s) to hook them up. A bit over kill but they prevent screen glitches that can happen with cheaper cables. HDMI can do it but DP it better technically.

KISSMAD
27-08-2022, 01:06 PM
What monitor will you be using?

xelasnave
27-08-2022, 05:13 PM
I have not given any consideration to a monitor.
Alex

Camelopardalis
27-08-2022, 08:39 PM
The monitor is one of the most important parts, since that’s how you’ll view your images!

Consider one of the Benq photo series. So long as you don’t go crazy with resolution, they don’t have to be pricey. For example, if you don’t have perfect eyesight, don’t waste your money on 4K resolutions…

FWIW, good choice of CPU, reasonably priced but super fast for multithreaded apps that will use all the CPU cores :thumbsup:

glend
27-08-2022, 10:35 PM
I use a nice BenQ monitor on my EAA system. So i agree with Dunks recommendatio.

KISSMAD
28-08-2022, 01:28 AM
You need a monitor that has a HDMI 2.1 or Display Port 1.4a interface for your current GPU.

xelasnave
29-08-2022, 08:31 AM
Thanks everyone. I plan seeing my daughter as soon as possible and pull this all together...

KISSMAD
01-09-2022, 04:39 PM
Let us know how things go.

xelasnave
01-09-2022, 05:27 PM
I am trying to get some time with my daughter to make a final list..she is very busy building a cabin ( planned it, taking the role of a builder but has guys working for her) and she has just so much on her plate I am refraining from pushing her..needless to say I am very proud of her and she could make it as a house builder even now...I have helped train her but some folk have it some don't.she has got it.... there are many skills in house building..solar powered and pressure pump plumbing regulations etc...she did do a revised parts list but I changed a few things and want her to look at it before I post it here....but it won't be long.

Alex

Kimbo
07-09-2022, 04:19 PM
Great thread Alex. I’m just about to start researching my build for a processing computer as my desktop is extremely old & won’t cut it. If you don’t mind I’ll use your list as a starting point. I’m a more mature imager & have never built a computer but with the great advice from this forum & YouTube videos how hard can it be!!!������

leon
07-09-2022, 07:04 PM
Go for it Alex and good luck mate, you will never regret it. ;)

Kim, I have just finished my build and I have to say it is very exciting especially when one first presses that button and it all fires up at 100 miles an hour. :eyepop:
I knew nothing until a very special member guided me all the way :)

And I have to say I am really from the old school, so to speak at 70 plus. :lol: :lol:

Leon :thumbsup:

Camelopardalis
07-09-2022, 09:18 PM
For those that are little left field, check out some of the integrated mini-ITX offerings…for example, the Cooler Master NR200P MAX or NZXT H1 V2.

These combos usually come as a case with power supply and water cooler installed. All you do is drop in a CPU+motherboard, drop in some memory and a SSD and you’re away!

FWIW, mine is running a Ryzen 5950X practically silently…

xelasnave
08-09-2022, 06:14 AM
That's the spirit Kim..we can do anything if we don't give up...I just can't get to sit down with my daughter to talk over the list and where to order ..but I think she is happy with a particular supplier..but just getting together is proving difficult..she hired a machine to do some earth moving and it lost a track and then all sorts of problems making a secure drive for a cement truck..so she does not need me wasting herctimecjust now..plus I seem to be doing a few things...the days just run out to soon.
However I still prefer to build as from here it's a long drive to buy one off the shelf..
Thanks for your kind words.
Ale

xelasnave
08-09-2022, 06:18 AM
Well Leon I am not trying to sound unkind but you are the last person I would think of to engage in a computer build and you are to be complimented on having a go and a successful outcome...more over just think of the people you have inspired to have a go...certainly you make me feel happier about my choice.
And thanks for telling of you experience.
Alex

xelasnave
08-09-2022, 06:22 AM
Thanks for your input Dunk but I don't really understand what you are suggesting so may I ask where can I look at the unit that you suggest..the water cooling sounds trick and given the heat I get here in summer maybe something I should know more about.
Thanks again.
Alex

glend
08-09-2022, 08:00 AM
Dunk, you may recall, i used these PC liquid cooled components to build a DSLR cooler some years ago. I attached the CPU cooler component to a copper cold finger running behind my 450D sensor (which ran out the side of the camera). It worked ok. I had a TEC on the cold finger to cool and the PC cooler was used to extract the heat from the hot side. I could easily pull the sensor temp down to -7C. The only problem was the mass of the coolant in the tubes, and the complexity of the support arms needed to allow freedom of movement of the scope and camera on the mount. You need a small radiator and fan to extract the heat from the coolant and a pump to circulate the coolant back to the camera. There are gamer PC component suppliers that have all the components you need to build it.. A real Rube Goldberg invention, but it did work. And it was fun putting it together, but far from practical compared to simply putting a fan on the TEC hot side.

You can see it all here:

https://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=144271&highlight=Liquid+cooling

Camelopardalis
08-09-2022, 06:05 PM
Alex, yeah that’s kinda what inspired me to look into the liquid cooling, as some days I would want to leave the machine crunching away without the air conditioner running :lol:

It basically replaces the CPU cooler, the power supply and the case, and in effect at least some of the cooling fans, since they are built in to the liquid cooler. The bonus is that these parts are already assembled for you, so saves a bit of effort.

The Cooler Master unit uses a 280mm radiator, so has a substantial amount of heat capacity, which means that the (built-in) water pump and attached fans don’t have to run as fast for the same heat output.

The GPU card will also exhaust its heat out the back panel, so there are no extra fans required there either. Saved a few extra $$ IMO.

Camelopardalis
08-09-2022, 06:09 PM
Yeah I remember Glen :thumbsup:

That inspired me to coldfinger my trusty 1100D…which I still have, still works, although I tend to use my dedicated cooled astro cam these days for ease of setup.

I found the Cooler Master solution offered me the functionality I wanted without breaking the bank or my desk :lol: liquid cooling for PCs is really commonplace now, and it really works well for my 5950X, and I don’t have to hear a noisy PC while working on my image processing :D

xelasnave
09-09-2022, 08:26 AM
Thanks Dunk I have passed that on...
A question that I was asked to put to the brains trust...was if I have it right...what does the stacking software use predominantly..CPU or GPU...
I hope I got it right.
Alex

glend
09-09-2022, 10:37 AM
From memory DSS provides a choice of stacking algorithms, and conducts multiple passes. The speed with which it operates is also affected by the star threshold setting, ie it can be limited to using a brighter subset of the star field. You only need enough stars to provide good alignment, over processing can really slow things down. On that basis I would think it it is CPU, however, I do not believe DSS is a processing hog, per se. File size and pixels in the image probably determine time taken as well.

sharkbite
09-09-2022, 12:28 PM
Hi Alex...

according to the DSS owner group there are no plans to port it to GPU.

https://groups.io/g/DeepSkyStacker/topic/60284395#23034

Also a note that more than 32G RAM is overkill

https://groups.io/g/DeepSkyStacker/topic/cpu_or_gpu/30305216

this bears out with my personal experience - if you run windows "perfmon"
you will see where your machine may be lacking...

I have never gone over 8G of used RAM, even in 64bit processing canon RAW images (it's much less for my astro cam)

The GPU is practically asleep, where the CPU is going off like a frog in a sock.

Even the HDD aren't all that busy - although i suspect if i invested in a faster CPU with faster RAM that would change.

Hope this helps - and applies to DSS only.

there might be some other stacking software that uses GPU, but i'm lazy and a cheapskate, so DSS is all i can comment on ;-)

GPU acceleration is a big deal - so if some software has it, they usually trumpet that loud and clear

Starttools definitely does - so if you use that.....

xelasnave
09-09-2022, 04:07 PM
Thank you Glen that very helpful.
Alex

xelasnave
09-09-2022, 05:03 PM
Thank you very much Sharkbite.

Alex

Startrek
09-09-2022, 05:32 PM
Alex
My only advice is plenty of storage , plenty of memory and a powerful processor
As we all know the new generation Cmos cameras from ZWO and QHY spit out 50 MB files
Also Startools needs a solid machine 32GB ram as a minimum
I’ve noticed in the past 3 weeks since updating to V1.8 it does lag on some of the modules ( there’s even a note to tell you that on some modules ) and my laptop is an i7 with 16GB ram

Don’t cut yourself short with the new machine, we spend a stack on money on mounts , scopes and cameras etc… shouldn’t we do the same for the most important final cog in the gear , the computer


Cheers
Martin

xelasnave
10-09-2022, 03:48 PM
Thank for sharing your wisdom Martin I think you have a great perspective there.

For those who are interested here is the final list..I think..anyways we have ordered everything.:thumbsup::shrug:;)

My daughter is getting a new and better graphics card and i am taking hers:lol::lol::lol:.
There is an old monitor laying around but I will get another so I can have two:D
AND if nothing else it is a step forward..I think we have it all covered but to be honest my head is spinning after our final parts list and ordering conference..
FINAL BUILD

Corsair RM750x Gold Modular 750W Power Supply V2

Western Digital WD Black 10TB 3.5" Drive x2

Western Digital Black SN770 NVMe Gen4 M.2 SSD 1TB

ASUS ROG Strix B550-F Gaming Wi-Fi II Motherboard

AMD Ryzen 9 5900X Processor

Team T-Force Dark Za 32GB (2x16GB) 3600MHz CL18 DDR4

Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh Edition TG Black Case

Phanteks SK 140mm PWM Fan

ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 2060 Super 8GB

Phanteks Glacier One 280MPH D-RGB AIO Liquid CPU Cooler Black

2560x1440 32" primary monitor (exact model to be determined)
1920x1080 32" secondary monitor (Acer)

Alex

oska
10-09-2022, 05:16 PM
Looks pretty good to me.
If you're going for two monitors there can be an annoyance when you get 2 different ones, in that their pixel scale can be different and they look weird. The wife does CAD and had this problem, switched to two the same and all good.
At 32" 1080 will have very noticeable pixels. Even if you want that (effective) resolution you are better to use a 4k and set it to native resolution (2160) in the display settings and then set the "Scale & layout" in the display settings to greater than default (I use 175%). It's not perfect and some crap programs get weirded out by it but nothing astro so far has caused me grief. This way you have a large screen with no discernable pixels and you don't have to squint to see things.

rustigsmed
10-09-2022, 06:08 PM
Dual 32" monitors is a lot of real estate - I use dual 27" (1440p and 1080p like you) and find that's nearly too much for me (and I like the idea of big screens) - but if you're sitting quite far away it could be fine

xelasnave
11-09-2022, 07:31 AM
Thanks for your warning.
My daughter covered the proposition you mention however my response was that on the old screen I will display my file list which I find I am accessing frequently and being text it should not be a problem, and to use that same screen to input and view activity in Deep Sky Stacker and use the better screen to use with StarTools and Photo Shop.
I have not used a two screen set up so it is unknown if I will like it or not but given my experience of seemingly constant reference to my file list and Deep Sky Stacker while working in Startools or Photoshop I feel it may work for me....I may just have an open fire displayed on the older screen or a planetarium...or gold fish:D
Alex

xelasnave
11-09-2022, 07:44 AM
Thanks I dont know how I will go as I only use small screens the biggest being my lap top ...I think Photoshop should be a better experience maybe StarTools as in both those I tend to be looking at blown up images and scrolling around and I hope that there will be less need to scroll and view a complete large image.
Inspecting subs I hope will be easier.

My daughter told me I can even have more screens so maybe two at my work bench and two on the dresser near my bed and one on the ceiling about my bed:D

Now that everything has been ordered I am only now starting to get excited ...

Alex

xelasnave
16-09-2022, 06:14 PM
BIG NEWS....

All the parts arrived today ..my feet did not allow me to go see but I hope to see them tomorrow and maybe post a photo.

Alex

xelasnave
18-09-2022, 07:03 AM
My darling daughter finished my machine yesterday
She is even going to load all my software.
Thanks again for all the help ..this machine is now much more special than something off the shelf.
Alex

Crater101
18-09-2022, 10:12 AM
Like Russell, I use two 27" screens, a holdover from marking student assignments. If you're going down the path of two screens, take the extra five minutes to set everything up carefully at the outset. It's not difficult, but it saves a little hassle later on.

xelasnave
18-09-2022, 04:21 PM
i have another screen

oska
18-09-2022, 05:00 PM
Sweet Alex. Try to run as many hard jobs (stacks or system benchmarks etc) as you can as soon as you can for the first day or so. Just to make sure everything is hunky-dory. New parts, if they're going to fail, usually do it in the first 24hrs under load. Generally it's called "burn in". Besides I'm sure you've got a few thousand subs that need a good stacking :)

xelasnave
18-09-2022, 06:20 PM
There is another screen laying around.
Alex

Opps this was laying around on my second phone

xelasnave
18-09-2022, 06:23 PM
I yried s big stack today on the laptop and it said 8 hours to go so I stopped it...I cant wait to see how it goes.

Alex

xelasnave
19-09-2022, 03:28 PM
Doing a similar stack on the new machine..so far so good

KISSMAD
22-09-2022, 04:06 PM
How long did it take to do the stacking on your old machine compared to the new machine?

Kimbo
27-09-2022, 06:43 PM
Your new PC looks amazing Alex, your daughter did a great job, you must be pleased. Let us know what programs you’ve loaded & how well they are running.

I was going to do a similar build but a friend who has built several PCs suggested I go up in chip sets.

Here is what I’ve ordered:

Cooling - Noctua NH-D15 Chromax
Power Supply - Cooler Master V850 Gold-V2 850W 80+ Gold
Primary Storage - Samsung 980 PRO M.2 PCI-E Gen4 NVMe SSD 2TB
Secondary Storage - Samsung 980 PRO M.2 PCI-E Gen4 NVMe SSD 1TB
Case - Fractal Design Meshify 2 Black Solid
CPU - AMD Ryzen 5950X
Graphics Card - ASUS Radeon RX 6800 XT TUF Gaming OC 16GB Video Card
Memory - Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB (2x32GB) DDR4 3600MHz C18
Motherboard - ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero
Logitech Mx 3S mouse
Logitech MX keyboard

I’m going to load Windows 10 for the time being & I haven’t decided on the HDD storage yet.

Wish me luck!!

Cheers
Kim

oska
27-09-2022, 10:04 PM
Hi Kim,
Nice rig.

Consider swapping your primary and secondary storage around. Unless you have heaps of modern A+ games I doubt you would need 2T for system but you can use nearly that much on big stacks.

Go for NVidia, whatever you want - doesn't matter. CUDA! All the acceleration is for cuda at the moment and near future afaik.

Don't forget to turn memory boost (depends on which bios for what it's actually called) on in the bios so you can use the ram @ 3600

Kimbo
28-09-2022, 01:12 PM
Thanks for the advice John. I typed the wrong SSD against the primary name! I’ll be using the 1TB for the OS.

I’m still trying to decide on storage HDDs, whether to get internal, external or both & what size. The PC will not be moved so I can go for the cheaper 3.5 drives for internal but I’m also considering whether to get a NAS for storage & backup.

Any advice from techies would be greatly appreciated.:)

Decisions Decisions!!

Cheers
Kim

oska
28-09-2022, 03:26 PM
I would get a reasonably big and reasonably fast internal first, like a WD black 10T. That will sort you out for the immediate future I expect. Whether you go NAS etc will depend on... how long is a piece of string.

xelasnave
29-09-2022, 07:38 AM
Because the stacks were slightly different I recorded no times..shortly the new computer will be complete ( we are waiting on a scratch drive to see it completed 100%)

I then will do a direct comparison.

However even at this stage it appears much faster.

Alex

xelasnave
29-09-2022, 07:40 AM
All luck is prortional to your effort input but as a friendly token of support I wish you luck.

Thanks for sharing.

Alex

xelasnave
29-09-2022, 07:42 AM
Still waiting on the scratch drive ( whatever that is) fingers crossed but maybe today.
Alex

Kimbo
29-09-2022, 06:08 PM
Thanks John. I’m now looking at two 6 or 8 TB HDDs internal in a Raid configuration & in the future an external backup. What are your thoughts on this setup?

Cheers
Kim

oska
29-09-2022, 10:08 PM
RAID used to be a thing but not so much any more. Generally speaking it can be far more trouble than it's worth. Definitely NOT hardware raid, as you are trapped in the proprietary format hell. Unless you keep extra copes of the hardware your data is toast if there's a hardware problem down the line.
If you're after data integrity then do scheduled backups, at whatever frequency suits you, to external (several rotated, ideally) usb drives, plus NAS if you want a live local copy, plus off site if the data really matters.
If you're after speed use SATA SSD or better NVME SSDs. If you must raid them for the extra speed only use it for scratch and do very frequent [hot] backups.
Way overkill for astro, more for enterprise databases etc.

I use NVME for processing then move the data to a local HD. Then it's schedule copied to NAS for archive. Any important stuff is also copied to ext USB in the schedule.
Every year I replace my "work" drive with all my code (not astro) and stuff on and make a copy to the new drive. I label the old one and put it on the shelf. Not a fireproof solution, literally, but it's ok.

oska
29-09-2022, 10:17 PM
scratch space. fast drive space to help make data intensive processes like stacking faster, usually many times faster.

xelasnave
30-09-2022, 01:28 PM
It's done but I .cant use it cause others are using the power up there anyways no huge data stack in mind so I will wait..one more program that I want and doing it on the hill is better due to net connection.

I am in no rush as I have all the new bits for the scopes to set up...last of it arrived today and only openned everything moments ago...
But it is now close so I will slow down as I cross the line.

I need a nap now.

Alex

Kimbo
02-10-2022, 08:45 PM
Thanks for your great advice John. You can tell I’m an IT beginner with all these questions!!!
I’ll just get a big HDD as you suggested & think about an external backup later.

Cheers
Kim

xelasnave
06-10-2022, 02:04 PM
I posted a photo in the other thread a out Asiairs but I guess the final result is best put here.
I am very happy, needless to say particularly that members contributed to the plans and that my daughter put it together ..it is very special to me.
Thanks for your interest.
Alex

oska
07-10-2022, 01:11 AM
Excellent! :thumbsup:

LonelySpoon
07-10-2022, 10:32 AM
Very impressive!

Neville
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