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Phil
07-01-2007, 06:14 PM
Just had my 4 kids 3weeks , chrismass , and new year. But today i had to put them on a plane so they can go back to there mother in N.S.W. God life is hard sometimes. I no this has nothing to do with astromony but i talk to your guys and girls every day.
Phil:( :(

Harb
07-01-2007, 06:16 PM
Just look forward to the next time you see them Phil.......not to long I hope :)

iceman
07-01-2007, 06:45 PM
4 kids! That would be hard. 3 is much, much harder than 2. I can't imagine how hard 4 is!

I love seeing my kids and playing with them everyday.. they're at a fun age.

I couldn't imagine not seeing them for a length of time.. 3-4 days at IISAC will be long enough for me!

Striker
07-01-2007, 07:37 PM
Thats the way Phil,

Use them to clean the house, yard and garden up for 3 weeks then send them back home....nice.

Now your life can get back to normal and start producing some more images...lol

Mike dont get all mushy on is....we know the real story.

jase
07-01-2007, 07:53 PM
Don't let it get you down Phil. Enjoy the moments you have with them... Besides I'm looking forward to you suprising us all with your next SHO or SOH narrowband imaging project. ;)

Phil
07-01-2007, 08:16 PM
i only get then twice a year which make it harder when they have to go. Tony your a bugger try cleaning a house with 4 kids running around. Jase i will be out there soon i did take the kids out and let then shot M42 through the STL-11000M they loved it.

jjjnettie
07-01-2007, 08:42 PM
Boy, the house must be quiet without them.
When do they come to visit next?

Phil
07-01-2007, 09:30 PM
I don't get then till June,July so i have alot of time to myself. I will have to do some photo work of the night sky. That alway take my mind of things.
Thanks
Phil

Orion
07-01-2007, 09:34 PM
My heart really does go out to you Phil. It must be hard.

ballaratdragons
07-01-2007, 09:36 PM
Phil, look forward to the day that they might 'choose' to come live with you.

My eldest daughter chose to live with me when she was 15, and I hadn't seen her since her 1st birthday!

It's a dream to hang on to mate.

As for my other kids, I got custody of them. I couldn't bare to be without them, so I sort of know your grief. I almost lost them. They were kidnapped once!!!!

acropolite
07-01-2007, 09:39 PM
Good to hear you spent some quality time with your kids, I know what it's like not to have day to day contact with your kids, it's something you will probably never be able to have but at least you can make the time you do have special. It's also nice to think that you can share your enjoyment and disappointment with us.

Dennis
07-01-2007, 09:39 PM
Hey Tony

You’re all heart! :lol: Have you considered a career in counselling? :whistle: :whistle:

Cheers

Dennis

Phil
07-01-2007, 09:59 PM
Thanks very much it helps to talk about it for me anyway. The time i had this time was great and i can not wait to see then again. Tony a career in counselling i dont no about that one.
Phil

ballaratdragons
07-01-2007, 10:04 PM
Phil, I'm glad and pleased that you share your grief with us. Don't go it alone mate, even though we are over the internet, many of us are with you.

Thank you for considering us to share your downs as well as your ups.

sheeny
07-01-2007, 10:21 PM
Hang in there, Phil! Both Lyn and I know what it's like. My kids were never as far away, but I think I have a pretty good idea! My kids are grown up now.

Lyn's girls were in Far North Queensland and like you she only saw them on school hols, but the good news is that they have moved down with us for the next year at least. They've only been here since Saturday.

There's a lot to be said for keeping busy, having some projects to work at, and good friends (even IISer's like Striker :hi: and others you haven't actually met!!!;) ).:D

Thanks for being open and sharing with us mate!

Al.

Phil
07-01-2007, 10:36 PM
Thanks sheeny hope you have a good time with your kids.
And thanks again for the replys.
Phil

Harb
07-01-2007, 10:47 PM
I recon it gives you heaps of time to plan one heck of a good time next time you meet.

geeez seems to be a lot of time in this reply :screwy:

cheers
John

avandonk
08-01-2007, 07:27 PM
The main consolation you most probably have is they are in good hands when they are not with you. It is the one thing that kept me not feeling really bad for far too many years.

Bert

Phil
08-01-2007, 08:09 PM
Guess your right Bert. Still hard but
Phil

Striker
08-01-2007, 08:11 PM
Just think of what you want to put on the G11....that will help you get motivated.

Ring me if you like I am a family councilor....lol

Phil
08-01-2007, 08:15 PM
Tony Tony Tony you should start a family practice.

xelasnave
08-01-2007, 08:34 PM
Phil life can deal harser blows than that .. please focus on the fact that you have four children and that they can be with you at least someof the time. As time goes on the pain eases, and on the bright side with usable face to face conferencing only around the corner contact will improve I bettcha.
It is very touching you chose to share your inner feelings with us I have asked myself what words I could offer to make it better for you ... there really are none but I can tell you (having worked in the Family Law Division of the Family Law Court for some 5 years) there are cases that are simply tragic in the extreme... The only advice I can offer is to count your blessings for in those moments the pain will ease.
best wishes alex

ispom
08-01-2007, 08:39 PM
Phil,
even in the remote Germany is someone feeling sympathy for you by overcoming that problems,
don’t resign, the children will remember the good time with you

Phil
08-01-2007, 09:01 PM
Thanks again. Alex that post made me feel better we all should look at ourself and count our lucky stars. Like you said there is alway someone worse of. I have made Germany thanks ispom
Phil

Argonavis
08-01-2007, 09:36 PM
Downstairs I have a picture on the wall of a lighthouse being battered in a storm.

It reminds me of what life is like sometimes, and how important it is to be an emotionally stable and positive influence in our children's lives.

They too suffer the emotional ups and downs of life. This is all part of growing up.

The kids will come and go into and out of your life. It is unfortunate that it probably happened too soon, and you must be like a rock in their lives and always be there for them, by keeping in contact and showing you care. Maybe you could send them small presents and txt messages (if they have mobiles). You need to be emotionally strong without becoming hard and bitter (not that I think you are).

Stay positive and occupied, and remember that everything turns out for the better, even if we don't always see it at the time. This is where a hobby like astronomy is really great, it doesn't take much to get involved and it is really a positive way to spend your time, if you can draw meaning and wonder from the cosmos around you.

cheers

h0ughy
08-01-2007, 11:04 PM
Tony's counselling has helped me, I am now well adjusted and normal.:P :screwy:

Phil, do yourself a favour and buy some aperture to help refresh the mind and cleanse the sole, something like a photonic colonic:rofl: :whistle: if nothing else it will impress the kids next time around!;)

Phil
09-01-2007, 08:06 AM
i have the lightbrigbe 16" on order that my help.