Seriously nauseated - by all the sports talk on IIS

[Doug]

Not sure if this comment should go here or in the website feedback area.

It would be nice if there were a thread area set aside for sports comentaries only. I don't care if my comments leave me as 'popular as a pork chop in a synagogue' or not, but I am utterly fed up with having sport shoved down my throat morning noon and night:mad2: :mad2: . For me, it is twice as boring and half as edifying as watching paint dry. Whilst I respect the right of others to revel in things sportish, I would find it really usefull if each and every thread on sport were suitably flagged or placed so that I could simply avoid opening them.

I don'y ask my chemist for a_farm either....I insist on generic suppliers who also carry out their own Pharmaceutical R&D; that way I help future advances in medication;) .

swimming against the tide,
Doug

[janoskiss]

Hmm, I'm not big on sports in general either, but I don't think there are enough threads on sport for it to have its own forum. Besides, it's not astronomy related so it belongs in General Chat, and giving it its own forum would probably attract more posts on the topic so you'd probably be even more unhappy. Surely, if you're not interested, it's not that hard to avoid the few sports threads that pop up from time to time. :shrug:

[iceman]

Swimming is a sport, Doug! :P

As Steve said, if they're in general chat, and they're titled appropriately (so you know it's about sport), it's easy enough to just not open that thread.

Use the "Mark Forums Read" link to mark all threads read once you've finished reading the ones of interest.

[Dujon]

Sorry, Doug, I'm of Steve's thinking. There's nothing wrong with a bit of side chat on subjects outside astronomy, whether that be sport or philosophy, is there?

Certainly there is a huge number of sites dedicated to various sports but surely we are not all so narrowly focussed that we can't pass the odd comment or two on other matters (though I'd draw the line at politics and religion).

So far I have considered this site to be akin to a social gathering with advice and discussion on astronomical subjects being its main thrust but, like any other meeting of minds, one where the conversations will stray.

[ving]

hiya doug, not a sports fan either :)

just do as mike has suggested and all should be well. it kinda hard to escape the world cup at the mo tho. :(
anyhow, thats what the general forum is for

[astroron]

On all the forums on ICEINSPACE if it's not in my interest I don't read them it is as simple as that, one dosn't have to be Einstien to work that out, only go to the threads that grab you,has as been noted it is for General Chat and the World Cup is Big at the moment:) :)

[xelasnave]

:hi: I think I can understand your feeling Doug the prominance of sport in news coverage and the recent soceer thing has probably left you with no place to escape its presentation:) ....your last hope iceinspace seems to be going over to the dark side:scared: . But look on the bright side if sport had not been present here you would not have the opportunity of venting the frustration of continual presentation of the same meal where ever you looked;) .
And I confess I feel the same way at times but thinking about it I would rather a nation of sports fanatics than a nation of warrior fanatics and you gotto keep them occupied until the testosteron in either settles:lol: :lol: :lol: .
I bet you feel better:thumbsup: .
alex

[astronut]

I have to agree with you Doug, Even though sport is an essential part of a healthy lifestyle, our "media" can't help itself and has to report ad nauseum on every single muscle twing, especially cricket & football.
With every trip to a school or open night for our club, I try and push to the kids and parents that there is more than just sport in their lives.
If you're a good story spinner and have a good clear sky + telescope, you can show others the wonder of the universe and WIN them over, with something other than sport. My 2 cents.:lol:

[OneOfOne]

I have to agree with the Sport coverage on TV lately. They have the news which consists of "we won/lost the soccer", "some footy gorilla has been dropped", "a tennis jock got married"...blah blah blah. Then "more about that in the sport coming up"...I wish they had something like the news groups where you could see all the articles they are going to think about talking about and you can choose to see the ones you want! I'd rather then fill the "missing time" with test pattern...more exciting.

While I am at it, why do so many shows run 5 minutes over lately? Don't they have a clock?

Provided people title the thread to indicate it has a sport content and keep them in here, I will just skip them.

[janoskiss]

What I hate the most about sport on the TV/radio is the endless repetition boring dry numerics, like cricket scores. It's worse than listening to the stock market report! I do like the way Roy and HG do sports though!

[xelasnave]

Dont you like Saturday afternoon when you can get..rugby on 2, afl on7 , soceer on sbs, I think more afl on 10 and league on 9(forgive me the channel references are probably incorrect but you will take my meaning)
Now is that not a great sporting afternoon where you can sit on your butt being able to participate in whatever sport you like.. summer throw cricket into the mix...
so dont you just love having the wonderful alternative entertainment..."big brother"....:eyepop:
And to think our ancestors missed all these wonders the poor devils only had the night sky to look upon.;) :lol: :lol: :lol:
alex

[Doug]

Please Guys, don't get me wrong. As I said; I respect the right of others and I was obviously not advocating that these threads have no place here.( I thougtht I made that clear:shrug: )


I agree I don't have to open threads that are of no interest to me, however I have to open threads that don't say "Doug avoid this one" or "sport content.....beware" just to find out I don't want to open them:screwy: .

Nothing personal meant of course, but "Unofficial Bandwagon Jumper Thread climb on! " doesn't warn me to avoid it. After all said and done, how many band wagons are there these days that people are jumping onto?

Anyway, I've had my gripe for the week; I'll go give the cat a bowl of warm beef soup.

Cheers,
Doug

[toetoe]

To have a section for Sports only would mean having another 50 or more sections for all other bits and peices like "T.V programs" which people like to comment about or "My new car" or "My new job" etc etc etc. I understand your point Doug and hope my point makes sense as well. If the thread topics are worded right, we all look at the ones that interest us and if they don't, just don't open it.:thumbsup:

[ving]

lol, dont worry bout it doug :)
i am sure no one took offence. I agree that subject labeling is important too... but then i am a librarian :P.
but hey, its not life threatening or anything :)


you feed your cat beef soup?

[fringe_dweller]

Wha! Heresy!!! the 'opium of the masses'! we are talking about here! this is an Aussie forum after all, and thats and what aussies are all about, isnt it?(apparently) what would we make small talk about if it wasnt for sport?
How would politicians get unpopular laws passed and win specifically timed elections if it wasnt for the endless distraction of bread and circuses! what would Howard regularly soften his draconian image whilst turning oz into a Thatcherite paradise? 'he's a good bloke, he likes his sport doesnt he?'
What would all the bonehead jocks do? no more breathless hyperventilating after game/match/laps interviews littered with gems like: 'I got a lot of self belief in meself'.
And I agree with Alex, you got to give people an outlet for their bloodthirsty primitive warlike tribal instincts (besides fishing).
And re anyone calling soccer boring, what about swimming!!? the sport we excel at the most on the world stage! man I want to gouge my eyes out and perform a self labotomy when they have ten hours of swimming on tv - I am positively catatonic if I catch even a glimpse of that on tv. Nothing beats that for boring!
Lighten up dude - just go with the flow - or you could find yourself on a pacific island detention centre for subversion or sedition.

and oh yes and ... GO THE CROWS!!

[Mick]

Not everyone likes sport that's right, but I can't believe that we have to have a thread about it :shrug:

[janoskiss]

Sure we can have a thread about it. :)

Doug, I agree that it can be a bit annoying when a thread's title does not properly describe its content that you are not interested in. But that also happens with topics other than sports. There probably are some sports threads, but right now I cannot think of any thread other than the one you mention that did not have a descriptive enough title to be able to tell that they are about sport. So how does this sound?: Whenever I notice a sports thread with an ambiguous title I'll append it if I can to make it clearer what it is about. ;)

[CoombellKid]

Here Here!!, btw, dont you just love the guy who invented the 5 day test
cricket matches. Gimme day/night or 20/20 any day. But I guess that all
happen way before TV lol

...not a huge sports freak, but do like my Rugby Union!!

regards,CS

Rob

Edit: Some sports are better watched live and are not really suited to
TV. becuase unfortunately TV lacks atmosphere of being there.
I dont like watching AFL much, but have you ever been to a match
the atmoshpere is amazing, the best of any aussie sports. I agree
that threads should try to title them selves so folks can choose not
to enter but then again I have this funky "Back Button" which works
pretty well.

[astronut]

Oh Please!!! don't get me started on Big Brother:bashcomp: :bashcomp: :bashcomp:
What a great contribution to society it is.
I heard this morning that the ratings have fallen lower than a gophers basement, about where this program belongs:lol:

[fringe_dweller]

btw there called 'statistic's' and 'scores' Steve ..not numerics :P

and big brother is de-evolution in motion, very interesting to watch from that point of view

[CoombellKid]

Doug,

The funny thing is I jumped into this thread, thinking the poster may of
had a serious accident "Seriously nauseated" but it turned out to be

Sports lol

regards.CS

Rob

[astroron]

What we should do before the title of a thread is put "NOT SPORT" then we will all be happy.:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :thumbsup:

[janoskiss]

Not for me... Not big on de-evolution... Now if it was about de-convolution I'd be there in a flash! :D

btw. Appended thread title to better describe the topic under discussion. ;) :P

[Octane]

<cynicism>

I deliberately took a day off from work after the Australia vs. Japan game as I would not be able to handle the complete and utter bs talk around the watercooler all day.

Where do soccer players (mainly English league) get off on earning $300,000 a week for kicking a ball around a stadium? Then again, I suppose, you need to earn $300,000 a week to support a $299,000 a week cocaine habit. The most useless sport in the entire history of sport. The same goes for golfers.

Before anyone yells at me and points out the CEO's of companies earning similar amounts, or if not more, please back down; that's a different kettle of fish.

Can you imagine if that (sport) money was invested in AIDS, cancer or astronomical research? Where would we be now?

Better still, give it to me so I can purchase an RCOS (on obligatory Paramount ME) and an SBIG.

Give me cricket, anyday.

Big Brother is nothing but a poor excuse to get T'n'A on prime time television.

I concur with the original poster, Doug: it makes me want to indulge in an "involuntarily self-protein spill"*.

</cynicism>

Regards,
Humayun

*George Carlin.

[Starkler]

If people stuck to that ( its in the guidelines I think), it could save a lot of wasted time and mouseclicks.

[xelasnave]

When I was a kid George Orewals (s?) "1984" (then a dim point a long way in the future) showed a horrible future with the proposition of the imposition of such an intrusion to a humans privacy. I bet he never comtempletd the horror of this show:scared: ... its on here all the time (there are no other chanels on the tv)and even in the background the frustration of the presence of the show on prime tv gets to me:shrug: . still hats off to the people behind it all they seem to figure what folk want and give them so much it in time will turn them off..maybe.:)
Gotta go it on now:lol: :lol: :lol:
alex

[CoombellKid]

Make that $200,000 a week cocaine habit, you fergot about the high
maintenance, genetically modified barbie doll hanging off the elbow :lol:

regards,CS

Rob

[mickoking]

G,day Doug

I agree sport is pretty much shoved down our necks but I don't believe it is too excessive on IIS. I watch very little TV nowadays so I don't get the full brunt of the hype but I am still not looking forwards to the next big sporting event, The Ashes, It will be media meltdown again. 10-15 years ago I would have watched the entire 5 days of a test match, nowadays I don't even know who's in our cricket team. I only sport I show any interest in is the AFL.

[ballaratdragons]

Geez, get real.

I used to be guilty of talking off topic in threads, then I followed the instructions (eventually) and keep all my General Chat in 'General Chat'. But even that's not good enough for someone!

What's a bloke to do. If I misinterepret a thread title and open it, the first post usually gives a clue to what it's about. Then I can close it. No Drama, just choice.

As to clearly marking a threads topic in it's title, then every topic should have it, but that is being so damn pedantic!!!!

There are many many many many topics covered in general chat where the title does not give the meaning of the thread. So what. Just close it if you don't like it.

General Chat was placed in this forum (and almost all forums) so members can chat about anything.

There is heaps in General Chat that doesn't interest me either. Should I start a thread and complain that it doesn't come with the warning "Look out Ken, this won't interest you"? :rolleyes:

[Adrian-H]

have to say i agree with alex :thumbsup: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

allthough im not into sport eather

let the people have there sport and beer!

ballratdragons is a great bloke aint he! he enjoys his rugby, i think thats it! should allow him to enjoy it freely

i used to be pretty cynical myself so i can relate to some of the things said in here, but i have to say that ive changed. when i look back at what i did when i was like that, i did not see that my actions really affected others so deeply, and how much greif towards fellow men is caused from cynicalism. call me a queer if you wish, but if youve been there then changed youll understand.

[Gargoyle_Steve]

To Summarise todays lesson:

Msam (mass of sports commentary in all media) > CLm+o (Comfort Level of myself & some others)


BB 06 (Big Brother) = C(rap) + TnA (as previously postulated)

so BB 06 - C(rap) = TnA = A-ok! ;)


IIS + Astronomy(active elements) > (Sports[all])


As a side note, the only sports I watch on tv now are:
V8 supercars (and very few other motor sports)
&
State of Origin Rugby League!!

[ballaratdragons]

Rugby League Adrian :thumbsup:

Oops, shouldn't mention sport! :rofl:

But I must admit, Too much of anything can be a bore.

How's the chooks in China :lol:

[asimov]

Summed up perfectly ol' son! :thumbsup:

[matt]

Agree with you Ken and John.

Now, must call up ol' mate Wendell Sailor and see how his cocaine habit's going:P

[Striker]

Ok so we have a lot of members who are not interested in sport...thats fair enough...I'm sure it would get annoying for those members when the thread is not described properly in the topic....fair call.

But its not just sport content so dont just isolate sport as the colperate...I hear very little about sport on this forum as I am a very big sport lover.

Even though I respect you may not like reading some sport content on the forum I believe it's up to the individual to simply hit back on the explorer and read another thread.

This forum is not just about astronomy...I would like to think it's more about a community of people with the same hobby and if sport is a subject of interest then all be it post it.

I think the number 1 issue here is Correct and informative topic headers would solve 90% of the problems and stay away from "general chat" because thats what it is...."general."

[matt]

That's about the size and shape of it, Tony:thumbsup:

[Doug]

Yeah as I indicated twice already, I respect the rights of others to eat sport endlessly; I just get sick of it myself. Other topics might also be of no particular interest, but they are not shoved down your throat endlessly.
That is the point that should be remembered when making sweeping generalisations.
How often do we see other topics on IIs that are of no personal interest, that also are being shoved on us 24/7? hardly ever, probably never.
Of course sport isn't being overdone here on IIs, nobody said it was!
It does not matter where it comes from; the straw that breaks the camel's back, is one straw too many.
cheers,
Doug
I think criticism should be able to be made, but it needs to be fairly made.

[janoskiss]

I don't think there is much more to be said here. The same points have been made numerous times by all sides. Closing thread.