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16-07-2012, 02:15 PM
Although I think the human race is becoming progressively dumber, according to the researcher James Flynn (known for the Flynn effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect)), the average IQ for women now exceeds that of men.
For me it's not that surprising.
where did he say that the average women now score higher in IQ tests than the average men?
there was a time when I would have found that interesting and would have thrown such a theory into every macho's face.
nowadays, I simply don't mingle with machos anymore.
might be a sign for grown intelligence. :lol:
16-07-2012, 03:15 PM
Make of it what ever you want.:)
16-07-2012, 03:29 PM
Not that surprising, really. Have you met the average Kiwi bloke? :P
(Just in case there is any doubt: this is a joke. I have friends from NZ.)
ah, so it was some news paper article you had come across.
like this one (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2173808/Women-overtake-men-IQ-tests-time-100-years-multitasking.html?ito=feeds-newsxml).
Shall I be honest? I probably shouldn't.... but...
Edit: I really shouldn't.
16-07-2012, 04:27 PM
Sorry this is simply not true.
Men invented beer, football, pizzas and couches, so, I humbly beg to differ on the results of that research:rolleyes:
16-07-2012, 05:29 PM
That doesn't surprise me, at all. After all, women can multi-task better than men. :)
16-07-2012, 07:11 PM
Often a survey is orientated to produce desired results. The statistics can be juggled to achieve a judgement that is beneficial in proving the researcher's concepts.:P
It is generally accepted that there are differences in male and female brains. Men are able to think more logically where as women have better language capabilities.:)
If tests are conducted with a greater portion of language orientated questioning then women will score better.;)
That's putting it simply. It is much more complex than that. Some people score average on word skills yet are near genius on spatial relationships.:)
Everyone has their strengths and weaknesses. My weakest scores are in language and communication. Two days of testing revealed that. It also showed where my strengths lay.
The complexity of IQ testing demands much more than just handing over a test and having the candidate answer questions.:shrug:
People who grew up in country areas scored lower than their city counterparts. When the tests were redesigned to have less demand on comprehension and more on logic the country people scored better.:)
My point is the test results rely greatly on how well the candidates comprehend the test questions and what areas their strengths lay.
Types of testing are; language, scrambled words, arithmetic, codes, spatial relationships, progressive coding. There are several ways of testing and few people score equaly in each. That is because we all have varying aptitudes in different subjects.
Rambling switch is now off.
17-07-2012, 01:11 AM
Could also just be the quality of women volunteering for testing is getting better.
17-07-2012, 09:20 AM
That is another variable. There are more, and whether these were taken into account is not known.
17-07-2012, 09:59 AM
My wife and I are a team. We both recognise there are differences which we applaud and similarities which we also applaud. Combined we are more formidable than any single person so it's a partnership that really works for us both.
She outguns me for business, marketing ad heaps of business skills and more. I outgun her in practical skills, IT knowledge, navigation. etc etc.
Works for us. Differnt brains working diffeent ways.
I don't really beleive IQ is the real measure of abilty, it is only one perspective. I know many people who would score poorly on an IQ yet they can still excell and beat me at certain skilled tasks. It's as much about aptitude and attitude I reckon.
Each to their own I guess and viva la partnerships !! :thumbsup:
17-07-2012, 10:01 AM
Person of the Century
Of the 100 chosen, Albert Einstein (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein) was chosen the Person of the Century, on the grounds that he was the preeminent scientist in a century dominated by science. The editors of Time believed the 20th century "will be remembered foremost for its science and technology", and Einstein "serves as a symbol of all the scientists—such as Heisenberg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_Heisenberg), Bohr (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niels_Bohr), Richard Feynman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Feynman), ...who built upon his work". (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_100:_The_Most_Important_People _of_the_Century#cite_note-orNot-0)
The cover of the magazine featured the famous image of Einstein taken in 1947 by American portrait photographer Philippe Halsman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippe_Halsman).
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/66/Einstein_1921_by_F_Schmutzer.jpg/91px-Einstein_1921_by_F_Schmutzer.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Einstein_1921_by_F_Schmutzer.j pg)
Maybe the next one will be a woman
17-07-2012, 10:55 AM
Personally I think Emmy Noether is head and shoulders above everyone else.
Yet sadly largely unknown.
The mathematics behind particle physics which includes the theory behind the Higgs boson stems from her work.
17-07-2012, 11:00 AM
How interesting - Warwick and I are the exact opposite. I can do maintenance on the car, pull a computer apart and build it up again etc, he's hopeless at these skills. Yet he's good at marketing (when he puts his mind to it). I'm the navigator though, he gets lost. And I do mos of the household maintenance jobs, he's downright dangerous with a hammer.
Interestingly, I grew up on a farm, he's a city boy.
17-07-2012, 11:05 AM
Of course most women are smarter than most men they need to be otherwise the men would not get caught.
Intellegence is often confused with learning.
Of course it's true, my wife says so. :D
I just chop wood and lift heavy things. :P
17-07-2012, 01:49 PM
Doi I know this smart Woman? How is she? :rofl:
She was mentioned by Carl Sagan in his Cosmos series (and book), and her life as an astronomer and mathematician make facinating reading. Ahead of her time and murdered because of it. Known as Hypatia of Alexandria, hers is an amazing story.
18-07-2012, 01:06 AM
I have 3 daughters (unfortunately did not have any sons to play footy with) all smart all have uni degrees----as a dad women can do anything they put their minds to---good at multi-tasking. But having said that us guys are single minded----kind of solving the big singular problems of the universe and all of that stuff---what do you reckon ????? only going of history.
18-07-2012, 09:27 AM
If my memory serves me correctly women invented air bags, fire escapes and windscreen wipers, and the stuff on the above list was handy in keeping the blokes busy while they did so. ;)
18-07-2012, 10:23 AM
I'm also a Noether fan. As someone with a degree across physics and pure maths, the thing that amazes me is that her big contribution to Physics (symmetries equaling conservation laws), while often regarded as the most profound piece of mathematical physics around, is actually small beer in the context of her algebraic work.
She was largely responsible for turning abstract algebra into the key element of maths that it is today, developing much of the sophisticated machinery for handling rings and modules.
On top of that, she seems to have been a generous person, happy to suggest productive ideas to others, and then decline to take credit when they turned out to be hugely important.
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