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Old 17-07-2016, 12:07 PM
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Annotated Lagoon, 17 hrs, slightly sharper, less artifact

A very long time since we did the lagoon.

Red: SII 7hrs, Green Ha 5hrs, Blue OIII 5hrs, all 1hr unbinned subs. 3nM. Aspen CG16M on 20" PlaneWave. Stars whitened.

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Edit: Reprocessed version here. Slightly sharper, slightly less artifact around stars.

It looks much more lagoon-shaped than our previous effort, but we've annotated some other interesting features in the thumb:

A: Flying kangaroo head.
B: Wind god blowing streams of gas
C: Masculine hair dryer
D: Emu
E: Gangly running character from Mad Magazine
F: Soft toy tyrannosaur
G: Mrs Logie
H: Fiery Cliffs

The hourglass is burned out in H-alpha in 1-hour subs. We'll try some 15 minute shots if we get another clear night.

Very best,
Mike n Trish
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Old 17-07-2016, 12:29 PM
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I think I actually prefer the tighter FOV in this region. It is wonderfully smooth and very detailed Spent a while just looking at all of the gas waves and stuff You do have some ringing artefacts around many of the fainter "whitened" stars but it is not overly distracting.

The most important question of all... How long does it take for you to spot all the things
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Old 17-07-2016, 01:53 PM
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I think this colour palette works well with the Lagoon. Nice depth to the image too in my opinion.
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Old 17-07-2016, 03:30 PM
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And thats what you guys can do with a 20" Mike! as Paul mentioned, lovely attractive colour as well
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Old 17-07-2016, 06:15 PM
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Looks good guys. I hope my eventual colour version turns out as well.

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Old 17-07-2016, 08:47 PM
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I think I actually prefer the tighter FOV in this region. It is wonderfully smooth and very detailed Spent a while just looking at all of the gas waves and stuff You do have some ringing artefacts around many of the fainter "whitened" stars but it is not overly distracting.
Thanks muchly Colin. I'm slowly improving my algorithm for making them go away. The size of the box I automatically put around each star matters a lot and I'm not getting it right with the little ones. Perhaps the little faint ones should be left unbleached.

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The most important question of all... How long does it take for you to spot all the things
One at a time they leap out instantly, but I've collected them over many years of staring at lagoons.

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I think this colour palette works well with the Lagoon. Nice depth to the image too in my opinion.
Cheers, Paul. It does give an aquatic look to it. We try to stick with Hubble palette, set the zero point accurately from the histograms, and balance the overall colour to be on average neutral.

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And thats what you guys can do with a 20" Mike! as Paul mentioned, lovely attractive colour as well
Thank you Louie!

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Looks good guys. I hope my eventual colour version turns out as well.

Cheers
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Thanks Steve, and good luck with your version. Looking forward to it.
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Old 17-07-2016, 09:08 PM
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awesome detail m&T!
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Old 17-07-2016, 09:47 PM
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Veeeeery nice M&T, very nice indeedy.
Sharp, detailed, lots of interest and your nicest coloured image to date imo.
A beautiful Lagoon
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Old 17-07-2016, 10:08 PM
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Ok..I see all but A, B & H...?

A lovely Lagoon

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Old 18-07-2016, 06:46 AM
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Insanely crisp and deep M&T, and that's just using the IIS image! Very wall-hangable.
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Old 18-07-2016, 08:00 AM
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Hilarious M&T! I'll bet when you're enjoying an afternoon cuppa in your backyard every cloud has a letter designation!

Lovely image with very appealing colours!
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Old 18-07-2016, 10:34 AM
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awesome detail m&T!
Cheers, Rusty!

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Veeeeery nice M&T, very nice indeedy.
Sharp, detailed, lots of interest and your nicest coloured image to date imo.
A beautiful Lagoon
Thrilled you like it, Andy.

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Ok..I see all but A, B & H...?

A lovely Lagoon

Mike
Thanks Mike! The 'roo (A) is attached. The other two (B and H) are a bit vague.



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Insanely crisp and deep M&T, and that's just using the IIS image! Very wall-hangable.
Thanks, Simon! We're delighted.

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Hilarious M&T! I'll bet when you're enjoying an afternoon cuppa in your backyard every cloud has a letter designation!

Lovely image with very appealing colours!
Hi, Marcus! Yes, sunsets are especially narratogenic.
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Old 18-07-2016, 10:38 AM
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(A) is a donkey not a kangaroo
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Old 18-07-2016, 11:15 AM
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Great shot Mike. I love the framing, depth and structure. The clour differentiates the structures nicely.

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Old 18-07-2016, 02:42 PM
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Superb field Mike. Up close and personal. Great colour treatment too.
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Old 18-07-2016, 07:07 PM
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That's really lovely, M&T! A unique take on the Lagoon. You might want to see someone about that rampant pareidolia though

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Old 19-07-2016, 10:13 AM
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(A) is a donkey not a kangaroo
You are probably right. My argument was a statistical one, based on the Macropod to Equine ratio outside the living room window. The chap on the left (attached) is the one in the Lagoon. The mum and joey are also cute.

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That's really lovely, M&T! A unique take on the Lagoon. You might want to see someone about that rampant pareidolia though

Cheers,
Rick.
Thanks, Rick. But it's all really up there!

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Superb field Mike. Up close and personal. Great colour treatment too.
Thanks muchly, Marc.

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Great shot Mike. I love the framing, depth and structure. The clour differentiates the structures nicely.

Greg.
Delighted you like it Greg.
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Old 19-07-2016, 10:32 AM
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That's what I see when I get to my rural property! Out my window I see trees, birds and a train line in the distance
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Old 24-07-2016, 08:47 PM
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Lagoon NB 17hrs, sharper, less artifact

Here is a reprocessed version with a gentler magenta ring reduction algorithm that produces less artifacts.

The old algorithm tried to guess what was "under" the star from the surroundings. The new algorithm tries to model the star as a radially symmetric structure around a centroid which can be different for each channel.

I've also added a bit of hopefully justified wavelet sharpening.

Best,
Mike
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Old 24-07-2016, 09:50 PM
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The detail in the core is very nice and whatever sharpening that you've done really works for it. Some of the dusty (black) regions appear 3D compared to the nebulosity behind it.

No ringing artefacts Your previous algorithm appeared to handle the stars better in general, whether it is that algorithm or another one that does that I am unsure. The brighter ones appear more bloated, some of the magenta ones (moreso towards the north west) have halos and there are some smaller stars throughout the image that appear to have been saturated but have no lightness to them (more like small red splotches).

I don't think the above were in the original. Your new algorithm works an absolute treat with some of the artefacts that the previous one created, not sure if the new one is creating some other problems if whether it is something new entirely.

The detail around the central region in your image is far better than what I've achieved in mine! (just did a comparison)
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