Go Back   IceInSpace > General Astronomy > Astronomy and Amateur Science

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread
  #1  
Old 07-08-2021, 11:50 AM
gary
Registered User

gary is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Mt. Kuring-Gai
Posts: 5,926
China to fire up prototype thorium molten salt reactor in Sept. Commercial by 2030.

In a 4 April 2021 three minute read article at the The Institute of Electrical
and Electronics Engineers (IEEE) Spectrum magazine web site, Prachi
Pratel reports on the announcement out of China that they are hoping to
have a prototype commercial molten sodium reactor (MSR) using thorium
as fuel undergoing testing next month (September 2021).

They then hope to build multiple commercial reactors by 2030.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Prachi Pratel, IEEE Spectrum
If all goes well with the prototype, says a report in Live Science, the Chinese government plans to build several large MSRs. According to the World Nuclear Association, the country is eyeing thorium MSRs as a source of energy especially for the northwestern portion of the country, which has lower population density and an arid climate.

MSRs are attractive for arid regions because instead of the water used by conventional uranium reactors, MSRs use molten fluoride salts to cool their cores. Uranium or thorium fuel can be mixed into the coolant salt. Thorium MSRs have the advantage of being more abundant and cheaper.

China's experimental reactor won't be the world's first. Researchers at Oak Ridge National Laboratory (ORNL) pioneered thorium-based MSRs in the 1950s for nuclear aircraft propulsion as part of the Manhattan Project. A 7.4 MWth experimental reactor operated at the laboratory over a period of four years—although only a portion of its fuel was derived from uranium-233 bred from thorium in other reactors. This MSR technology was eventually shelved because the Pentagon favored the uranium fast breeder reactor, says Charles Forsberg, Principal Research Scientist at MIT's department of Nuclear Science and Engineering and former nuclear researcher at ORNL.

Scientists in China are now building on the same basic MSR technology developed at ORNL. The Chinese government had a small, short-lived knowledge exchange program with ORNL. But most of the thorium reactor-related intellectual property from ORNL is in the public domain, and China appears to have made some use of it. "The real data mine is the thousands of published reports in 1960s and '70s that are found in the open literature," Forsberg says.

Plus, recent technology developments have made it more feasible to build MSRs, he adds. This includes modern instrumentation that can unveil exactly what goes on in the reactor—but also includes equipment that finds parallel use, such as high-temperature salt pumps used in today's concentrated solar power plants that store heat via molten salts.
Article here :-
https://spectrum.ieee.org/china-clos...uclear-reactor

Another article at Live Science with additional background on the technology :-
https://www.livescience.com/china-cr...m-reactor.html
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-08-2021, 04:03 PM
RB's Avatar
RB (Andrew)
Moderator

RB is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 25,770
All off topic posts have been deleted.

Please read what Mike (iceman) has written for this section of the forum and limit your comments to on topic posts only.

Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman
Discussions related to the Science of Astronomy, Amateur Contributions to Astronomy Science, Space Exploration etc. Strictly moderated - stay on-topic, serious discussions please.
RB
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-08-2021, 10:10 AM
multiweb's Avatar
multiweb (Marc)
ze frogginator

multiweb is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Sydney
Posts: 22,062
If its water usage is ideal for arid regions that would be the ticket for us.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-08-2021, 12:00 PM
DarkArts
Registered User

DarkArts is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 606
Quote:
Originally Posted by multiweb View Post
If its water usage is ideal for arid regions that would be the ticket for us.
Other than construction cost, operating cost, lack of industrial base, length of time to build it and supporting services, use of Chinese technology in critical infrastructure and the absence of need for large, centralised power generators in arid regions of Australia.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-08-2021, 01:42 PM
multiweb's Avatar
multiweb (Marc)
ze frogginator

multiweb is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Sydney
Posts: 22,062
The energy demand is here wherever you live in oz and with the whole world busting our balls to go carbon neutral that looks green enough to me and more reliable than renewables. Nuclear energy in some sort fusion or fission is our way out once we're past the stigma.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-08-2021, 04:53 PM
Sunfish's Avatar
Sunfish (Ray)
Registered User

Sunfish is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Wollongong
Posts: 1,909
Very interesting. Thanks Gary. Interesting that some of the technology comes from work in concentrated solar molten salts. The kind of pilot project being conducted here in Aus.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-08-2021, 04:55 PM
Sunfish's Avatar
Sunfish (Ray)
Registered User

Sunfish is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Wollongong
Posts: 1,909
Would this mean the Chinese would not need so much of our uranium?
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +10. The time is now 05:04 PM.

Powered by vBulletin Version 3.8.7 | Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Advertisement
Testar
Advertisement
Bintel
Advertisement