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Old 19-01-2022, 01:07 PM
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Yeah eh,, Scott mentions that a Sensor had failed, not sure if only one or more, considering two mirrors having a problem, , though also need to know where these sensors are and what they actually do apart from the obvious.

I'd think they be behind each mirror segment measuring each mirrors position, distance etc,,, Apart from that, its also mentioned that the motors that move the mirrors are all working which is a good thing for sure,, so maybe the plan of arranging all the other mirrors into locaton 1st and then try moving the two concerning segments manually or more like overiding the sensor mechanisms and attempt to allign these two by trail and error ?
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Old 19-01-2022, 01:35 PM
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Yeah eh,, Scott mentions that a Sensor had failed, not sure if only one or more, considering two mirrors having a problem, , though also need to know where these sensors are and what they actually do apart from the obvious.

I'd think they be behind each mirror segment measuring each mirrors position, distance etc,,, Apart from that, its also mentioned that the motors that move the mirrors are all working which is a good thing for sure,, so maybe the plan of arranging all the other mirrors into locaton 1st and then try moving the two concerning segments manually or more like overiding the sensor mechanisms and attempt to allign these two by trail and error ?
Just a thought and my Bob's worth ?
Seems ok.
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Old 19-01-2022, 08:19 PM
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Cool 3D visualisation of Lagrange points.
https://youtu.be/7PHvDj4TDfM
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Old 19-01-2022, 09:35 PM
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Seems ok.
A3 & A6 still have to null to be ok.
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Old 19-01-2022, 09:59 PM
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What will come after JWST?

Have anybody heard of LUVOIR misson? I've found a video about this mission, interesting to watch. No sooner had they launched JWST than they started to make another huge telescope
Though as far as I know it's now only a concept, but I'm eager to see what it could show us
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Old 19-01-2022, 10:58 PM
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LUVOIR looks fascinating

I like the idea of distributed telescopes though. Just like how Webb and LUVOIR are made up of multiple mirrors, and how the Square Kilometre Array is distributed over multiple countries, it'd be great to have a telescope system comprised of swarms of cameras that fly out to some huge distance. Multiple AU away. Spread out over the solar system.

I remember reading about such a system in a science fiction book by Alastair Reynolds where they were able to image exoplanets and see terrain with it.

lots of cheaper satellites, lower cost?
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Old 20-01-2022, 05:57 PM
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Update Jan 20th

Some screen shots,, All mirrors out to required positions, obvoisely micro adjustments needed when initial imaging tests are done at a later date

Roughly 95% distance achieved considering timing,,
And a pic of the Filter Wheel for added interests
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Old 20-01-2022, 06:29 PM
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Thanks Bob, that filter wheel is very cool!
I found a (slightly) higher res version...
https://supernova.eso.org/static/arc...lter_wheel.jpg

(Edit: Trying to find a description of what each filter is/does)
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Old 20-01-2022, 07:16 PM
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But are they using native drivers or ASCOM :p
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Old 21-01-2022, 08:34 AM
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Thanks Bob, that filter wheel is very cool!
I found a (slightly) higher res version...
https://supernova.eso.org/static/arc...lter_wheel.jpg

(Edit: Trying to find a description of what each filter is/does)
Is that some kind of focussing mask on the bottom right?
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Old 22-01-2022, 09:24 PM
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Is that some kind of focussing mask on the bottom right?
A Bartinov Mask Steffen hehe,,

Pic attached showing names of each Filter in the Wheel - from Link 4 below

Fun Fact : JWST has an effective f/number of f/16.67, and an effective focal length of 131.4 m.

Have found some other interesting info on this Miri Filterwheel -->

1st; is an 'Animation' of the Light travelling through the MIRI Imaging System, quite remarkable,,,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfG5wqsM3Bk

2nd; YouTube showing the Filterwheel moving through its Positions 'Testing'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu7TH8FWmoc

3rd; PDF (Particularly Slides 4-8 showing some of the Corongraphic filters used,,
http://ircamera.as.arizona.edu/MIRI/...oronagraph.pdf

4th; MIRI Filters and Dispersers
https://jwst-docs.stsci.edu/jwst-mid...and-dispersers
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Old 26-01-2022, 09:45 AM
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An image of JWST in orbit at L2 has been captured:
https://www.virtualtelescope.eu/2022...e-24-jan-2022/

All it takes is 300 second exposure on a 17" telescope, for anyone wanting to replicate the feat!
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Old 26-01-2022, 09:53 AM
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Great overview of the mirror assembly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cUp0AEwV2w


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Old 28-01-2022, 10:35 AM
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The "Where is Webb" website (or is that "webbsite"? ) has added a rather cool 3D viewer, based on the "NASA Eyes" platform:

https://webb.nasa.gov/content/webbLa...ereIsWebb.html
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Old 28-01-2022, 02:02 PM
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Nominal,

Baseline of expected values as in nominal value or nominal dimension.

Could be a little bit more or could be a little bit less than expected.

But generally within acceptable limits.


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Great liftoff - I saw it on ABC 24.


The word nominal has no meaning I can find in terms of rockets:


https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dic...nglish/nominal


What do they mean?

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Old 04-02-2022, 12:46 AM
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JWST has reached its destination - L2.
Its first target will be a star in the constellation of Big Bear - HD84406.

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Now that JWST has reached its final destination in space, the mission team is getting the next-generation space telescope prepped for observations. A bright point like HD 84406 provides a helpful target by which the team can align JWST's honeycomb-shaped mirrors and to start gathering engineering data...
https://www.space.com/james-webb-spa...st-target-star
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Old 04-02-2022, 06:12 PM
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1st Photons have been through Webb

In the past day or so, for the first time, photons from distant stars traveled through the entire Webb Telescope

https://www.space.com/james-webb-spa...ignment-begins

Alignment procedure: https://blogs.nasa.gov/webb/2022/02/...the-telescope/

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Yeah..?..similar to using Catseye tools ...both iterative at least

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Old 08-02-2022, 01:20 PM
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Yeah..?..similar to using Catseye tools ...both iterative at least

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Iterative at the very least and one can-not train-automate a catseye, ,,,

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Old 12-02-2022, 08:16 AM
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I just came across this video which explains the design and operation of the mirror actuators. It's a very ingenious design, which uses a single stepper motor and drive train for both coarse and fine positioning, and a combination of gearing and flexure to obtain ~2 nanometre precision. (The presenter has built a working replica with a commercially-available stepper motor and a 3D printer.)

JWST Mirror Actuators are AMAZING!: https://youtu.be/5MxH1sfJLBQ
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