Well a member offered me a 14 mm xw at a good price so I went with it
Both the 13mm and 16 mm naglers are great eyepieces , if the 16 had a little more eye relief I'd never sell it 93 x seems just great.
Looking at robs argo recently sorted of decided me to observe with the specs on .. I can only see the screen when I'm standing quite a distance from it
..and I will get one sooner or later so it seemed to make a little sence to fix the eye relief issues with those two eyepieces .