Reccomend me a Telescope pls - Page 3

h45e (Anthony) · #41 03-03-2009, 12:55 PM

bugger, my gf will have to ride in the boot then

h45e (Anthony) · #42 03-03-2009, 07:29 PM

What do you guys think of this one?

http://www.telescope.com/control/pro...oduct_id=27184

Tilt (Michael) · #43 03-03-2009, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by h45e

I thought I let ppl know of my decison... Ill be getting a 10" Dobsonian Telescopeand then save up some more $$$ and get a HEQ5/HEQ6 later.

Now just need to decide what dobsonian to get.

That is exactly what I did, went with a 10" dob first, then later scored a EQ6 (which you will need, HEQ5 would be too small for a 10" newt) to mount it on. Ive been very happy with it.

Just be careful with the photography side of things, mate that's a deep trench. Total money sink

Michael

dpastern (Dave Pastern) · #44 03-03-2009, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by h45e

What do you guys think of this one?

http://www.telescope.com/control/product/~category_id=dobsonians/~pcategory=telescopes/~product_id=27184

Looks pretty cool actually. Remember though, the Aussie dollar sucks big time, so add at least 50% onto the cost, plus import duty, cartage and GST. So, at $699 US, I reckon it'll cost:

Sol, US to Aussie dollar = $1075

Add cartage - probably $300 due to size and weight

That's $1375

Now, since it's over a grand, import duty and GST apply. So, import duty is 5% of ONLY the goods cost (not including cartage).

$1375 * 1.05 = $1443

Now, for GST (which is on both the cost of the goods, AND cartage combined):

$1443 * 1.10 = $1587

if you'd bought it 6 months ago, it would have been around $800 for the scope, and whilst you still would have paid import duty/gst, it'd been cheaper. Beware of buying overseas imho, cartage to Australia is a killer, our dollar is very weak (like a wet paper bag imho), and there's no warranty. If something goes wrong, it's ship it back to the US, which is *very* expensive.

Dave

wasyoungonce (Brendan) · #45 04-03-2009, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by h45e

What do you guys think of this one?

http://www.telescope.com/control/product/~category_id=dobsonians/~pcategory=telescopes/~product_id=27184

I think Orion is made thru the same Synta factories in China as Skywatcher....badge engineering.

h45e (Anthony) · #46 04-03-2009, 06:22 AM

Trying to find a aussie price. Pulling teeth is easier.

dpastern (Dave Pastern) · #47 04-03-2009, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by h45e

Trying to find a aussie price. Pulling teeth is easier.

Yup. Bintel sells *some* Orion stuff, so does York, but they don't carry the full range. Again, Australian distributors do their own thing, rarely do they care about the Australian consumer.

Dave

JethroB76 (Jeff) · #48 04-03-2009, 11:02 AM

The bigger you go with Orion, the more you get ripped off in Australia.

The online price for that US$899 scope from an Australian dealer is $1700 - the 12" also in that link for US$1029 will set you back $2300.

Orions new XX12 Intelliscope truss scope is US$1299 but $3200 in Australia.

dpastern (Dave Pastern) · #49 04-03-2009, 03:26 PM

That's not Orion, it's greedy local distributors. One reason why I mandate that government control of business is a necessity these days. Business is like small children - give them an inch, and they'll take a metre.

Dave

h45e (Anthony) · #50 04-03-2009, 03:46 PM

Orion is out of my budget range. I was late at night and i stumbled across that web site and went wtf.. for that price I must have it. But then I got some sleep and went *swear words* its a American site.

Anyhow, now my question is for a Skywatcher retractable, are they any good, and do you need a shroud to get a "better image" out of them?
Plus is $800 for a Skywatcher retractable 10" a good price?

Thanks
Anthony

toryglen-boy (Duncan) · #51 04-03-2009, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by h45e

Orion is out of my budget range. I was late at night and i stumbled across that web site and went wtf.. for that price I must have it. But then I got some sleep and went *swear words* its a American site.

Anyhow, now my question is for a Skywatcher retractable, are they any good, and do you need a shroud to get a "better image" out of them?
Plus is $800 for a Skywatcher retractable 10" a good price?

Thanks
Anthony

all the reviews i have read of them have been great

York Optical have it for $1125, and Andrews have it for $900, and Andrews are usually about as cheap as you can get.

Cloudynights has some good reviews on them, including the 10 inch, and yes, from your backyard, a shroud would be preferable.

h45e (Anthony) · #52 04-03-2009, 04:12 PM

Can I pls have some linkage to the reviews (if they r online)

toryglen-boy (Duncan) · #53 04-03-2009, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by h45e

Can I pls have some linkage to the reviews (if they r online)

you're asking alot of questions mate, and thats fair enough, there are times that we all need advice. but i found the review by opening up google and typing "skywatcher collapsible dob review" and on the first page i found it.

I am sure everyone is happy to help, but help yourself first mate, ya know?

http://www.cloudynights.com/item.php?item_id=1920

This is a review of the 12" that i have just ordered, if you go back a page, there is a review of the 10"

happy trails

h45e (Anthony) · #54 04-03-2009, 04:52 PM

Trust me, been reading reviews up the wazoo.. but couldnt find any informative reviews about the 10" one (all were/are from companies that sold the 10". I dont really trust their reviews

h45e (Anthony) · #55 04-03-2009, 05:29 PM

I know im becoming a pain in the butt...
But what do you guys think of this one?
http://camerahousewa.com.au/skywatch...eq5-p-997.html

And pls dont say, get a dob.

Davekyn (David) · #56 04-03-2009, 05:38 PM

I'm suprised it's cheaper than www.andrewscom.au Skywatcher SW-600
200 x 1000P EQ5.
I never Like buying scopes from a camera house, but that one looks ok. Nice scope for tracking at dark sites. Looks good.

h45e (Anthony) · #57 04-03-2009, 05:43 PM

The pic on the web site looks like a EQ5 Pro mount, but i dont know if the wording on their web site means EQ5

dpastern (Dave Pastern) · #58 04-03-2009, 08:49 PM

No, you're *not* a pain in the butt, you're simply nervous about spending money on something that you're not totally au fait with, and reaching out for help. Nothing wrong with that.

Duncan, not everyone is a fait with Googling...

Anyways, the Black diamonds are supposedly SkyWatcher's premium scopes, they seem to be well received. For the price, it looks like a good buy - 8" optics for pretty good light resolving ability, EQ5 mount, reasonably solid. Also has built in motor drives in box axises. No go to, but you can always add that on later. I'd go that rather than the dob to be honest.

Dave

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Originally Posted by h45e

I know im becoming a pain in the butt...
But what do you guys think of this one?
http://camerahousewa.com.au/skywatch...eq5-p-997.html

And pls dont say, get a dob.

h45e (Anthony) · #59 04-03-2009, 08:52 PM

Im sort of leaning that way aswell. But so many options. I got a offer for a "Black Diamond BD2001-OTA with a PRO5MNT which is the computerized GoTo model. This is a popular model at $1859.00 including GST and Delivery"

But a bit higher than my price limit (if I went past that limit, my mrs would have my "little h45e" in a vise)

toryglen-boy (Duncan) · #60 05-03-2009, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by dpastern

Duncan, not everyone is a fait with Googling...

i am not asking him to be "au fait" with anything, and i am happy to help with whatever advice i can give, really i am.

But if you know how to register for and use this forum, then you know how to go to google and search. There is a difference between asking a bucketload of questions because you dont know (as in this case) and just being lazy.

like i said, i am happy to give whatever help i can ...