Go Back   IceInSpace > Images > Solar System
Register FAQ Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread
  #1  
Old 02-07-2010, 11:52 PM
SkyViking's Avatar
SkyViking (Rolf)
Registered User

SkyViking is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Waitakere Ranges, New Zealand
Posts: 2,260
Trans-Neptunian Object 50000 Quaoar

Hi all, the other day I disassembled my Losmandy G-11, cleaned it thoroughly, adjusted the worms and re-greased it in the hope of improving its tracking performance which has indeed noticeably dropped over the years.
Voila - after firing it up again I have been able to take unguided 1 minute exposures with perfectly round stars. Since I don't have any guiding equipment this ability is rather essential for me... (Lately I have been limited to around 30 seconds max before stars were getting blurred).
So armed with my newly regained tracking ability I went hunting for an object which have previously eluded me: Trans-Neptunian Object 50000 Quaoar which is currently traversing through Serpens Cauda while shining at a measly magnitude 19.

Image is available here: http://www.pbase.com/rolfolsen/image/126160527/original
Image details:
Taken 02/07/2010 @ 22:30 NZST with 10" Newtonian f/5 and ToUCam Pro SC1, no filters, no guiding.

The image is quite noisy, but this target is really at the very limit of what I can pick up with 1 minute exposures. I wasn't even sure if I got it until I started processing.

Quaoar was discovered on June 4, 2002 by astronomers Chad Trujillo and Michael Brown at the California Institute of Technology.
Quaoar is currently estimated to be 890 ± 70 km in diameter and orbits at about 6 billion kms from the Sun with an orbital period of 287 years. Quaoar has one known moon, Weywot, which was discovered in 2007. Weywot is estimated to have a diameter of 74 kms, orbiting Quaoar at a distance of 14,500 kms.
Quaoar is the largest body that is classified as a cubewano, which is a Kuiper belt object that orbits beyond Neptune and is not controlled by an orbital resonance with the giant planet. Cubewanos have semi-major axes in the 40-50 AU range and do not cross Neptune’s orbit. The name "cubewano" derives from the first trans-Neptunian object found after Pluto and Charon: "(15760) 1992 QB1". Later similar objects were called "QB1-o's", or "cubewanos".

Hope you enjoy!
Comments, critique etc welcome as always.

Regards,
Rolf
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-07-2010, 08:09 AM
Dennis
Dazzled by the Cosmos.

Dennis is offline
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 11,706
Excellent work Rolf, a very faint object indeed. I half expected to see an image of Weywot too! LOL!

Glad to hear of the improvement to the G-11 after your strip down and rebuild. Quite amazing imagery for a low cost, non-cooled sensor.

Cheers

Dennis
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-07-2010, 09:33 AM
seeker372011's Avatar
seeker372011 (Narayan)
6EQUJ5

seeker372011 is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Sydney
Posts: 3,652
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-07-2010, 03:18 PM
JD2439975's Avatar
JD2439975 (Justin)
Cloud hater

JD2439975 is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Conondale QLD
Posts: 493
That's pushing the edge of the solar system Rolf & your equipment too, nicely captured.

Glad to hear you've doubled your exposure times, that'll make a difference on some of these faint fuzzies.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-07-2010, 11:55 AM
Troy's Avatar
Troy
Registered User

Troy is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Hunter Valley
Posts: 946
Faint object indeed well done
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-07-2010, 01:06 PM
renormalised's Avatar
renormalised (Carl)
No More Infinities

renormalised is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Townsville
Posts: 9,698
Rolf....master of the webcam astrophotographers!!!!

Excellent work
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-07-2010, 01:28 PM
gary
Registered User

gary is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Mt. Kuring-Gai
Posts: 5,928
Hi Rolf,

Thank you for posting a link to your incredibly impressive observation of this faint
object, made all the more remarkable given the modest equipment used
to capture the image, which is also testimony to your skill in using the tools at hand.

The background information you provided was fascinating and it motivated this
reader sufficiently to Google in order to learn a little more. An excellent Wikipedia
article was found here -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50000_Quaoar
and a recent short paper by Fraser and Brown, (Brown and Triujillio were the original discovers),
entitled "Quaoar: a Rock in the Kuiper Belt" here -
http://arxiv4.library.cornell.edu/PS...003.5911v1.pdf
Some additional background here on The Planetary Society web site -
http://www.planetary.org/blog/article/00002420/

Thanks again!

Best Regards

Gary
Mt Kuring-Gai NSW Australia
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-07-2010, 03:07 PM
paulF (Paul)
Registered User

paulF is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Dural
Posts: 124
Hi Rolf and hat off for the mighty effort
Apologies if this sounds a bit silly but when you say unguided exposures for 1 minute, do you mean that every 1 minute you stop capturing, realign the scope to your target and then start capturing for another minute ....
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-07-2010, 10:55 AM
SkyViking's Avatar
SkyViking (Rolf)
Registered User

SkyViking is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Waitakere Ranges, New Zealand
Posts: 2,260
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dennis View Post
Excellent work Rolf, a very faint object indeed. I half expected to see an image of Weywot too! LOL!

Glad to hear of the improvement to the G-11 after your strip down and rebuild. Quite amazing imagery for a low cost, non-cooled sensor.

Cheers

Dennis
Thanks Dennis, I'm not surprised you were the first to comment
I'm definitely happy with my improved tracking - now of course it has been couded over since then, hmm...
Let's see about Weywot, LOL

Quote:
Originally Posted by seeker372011 View Post
Thank you Narayan, glad you liked it

Quote:
Originally Posted by JD2439975 View Post
That's pushing the edge of the solar system Rolf & your equipment too, nicely captured.

Glad to hear you've doubled your exposure times, that'll make a difference on some of these faint fuzzies.
Thank you Justin, yes hopefully I can now image even fainter fuzzies!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Troy View Post
Faint object indeed well done
Thanks Troy

Quote:
Originally Posted by renormalised View Post
Rolf....master of the webcam astrophotographers!!!!

Excellent work
Thank you Carl - I wonder how many deepsky webcam astrophotographers are left these days , I should move on I guess, maybe next year.

Quote:
Originally Posted by gary View Post
Hi Rolf,

Thank you for posting a link to your incredibly impressive observation of this faint
object, made all the more remarkable given the modest equipment used
to capture the image, which is also testimony to your skill in using the tools at hand.

The background information you provided was fascinating and it motivated this
reader sufficiently to Google in order to learn a little more. An excellent Wikipedia
article was found here -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50000_Quaoar
and a recent short paper by Fraser and Brown, (Brown and Triujillio were the original discovers),
entitled "Quaoar: a Rock in the Kuiper Belt" here -
http://arxiv4.library.cornell.edu/PS...003.5911v1.pdf
Some additional background here on The Planetary Society web site -
http://www.planetary.org/blog/article/00002420/

Thanks again!

Best Regards

Gary
Mt Kuring-Gai NSW Australia
Thank you very much Gary, interesting reads there. I'm glad you enjoyed it, it's always fun to image something not seen too often.

Quote:
Originally Posted by paulF View Post
Hi Rolf and hat off for the mighty effort
Apologies if this sounds a bit silly but when you say unguided exposures for 1 minute, do you mean that every 1 minute you stop capturing, realign the scope to your target and then start capturing for another minute ....
Thank you Paul, when I say unguided I mean that I don't use any auto-guiding, so I rely solely on the RA tracking of my mount. This usually limits my exposures to 1-2 minutes before stars get blurred. So auto-guiding is very much the preferred technique when taking long exposures, but that also requires extra equipment.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-07-2010, 01:52 PM
stephenb's Avatar
stephenb (Stephen)
Registered User

stephenb is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: all over the shop...
Posts: 2,098
Hi Rolf, firstly a great effort there chap. You are photographing the realms of the solar system which almost all of us will never see visually, let alone, photographically.

Not putting your experience and expertise down in any way Rolf, but doesn't your setup prove to many of what you can acheive with a good ol' 10" Newt and a webcam BUT a decent, good quality, well-aligned mount? It's a cry you hear go out to many amateurs who want to start AP/imaging - get a decent mount and the sky's the limit!
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 07-07-2010, 11:59 AM
Ric's Avatar
Ric
Support your local RFS

Ric is offline
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Wamboin NSW
Posts: 12,405
Blimey, that is amazing work Rolf.

Top stuff indeed.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 12-07-2010, 09:55 AM
SkyViking's Avatar
SkyViking (Rolf)
Registered User

SkyViking is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Waitakere Ranges, New Zealand
Posts: 2,260
Quote:
Originally Posted by glenluceskies View Post
Hi Rolf, firstly a great effort there chap. You are photographing the realms of the solar system which almost all of us will never see visually, let alone, photographically.

Not putting your experience and expertise down in any way Rolf, but doesn't your setup prove to many of what you can acheive with a good ol' 10" Newt and a webcam BUT a decent, good quality, well-aligned mount? It's a cry you hear go out to many amateurs who want to start AP/imaging - get a decent mount and the sky's the limit!
Thank you Stephen Yes, I'm actually surprised that the owners of the more sophisticated cams don't go for these exotic targets more often - it's quite amazing what can be picked up with even quite basic equipment. And you're right, a sturdy mount is certainly the key to successful imaging!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ric View Post
Blimey, that is amazing work Rolf.

Top stuff indeed.
Thanks very much Ric
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
quaoar, toucam, webcam


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +10. The time is now 10:22 PM.

Powered by vBulletin Version 3.8.7 | Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Advertisement
Bintel
Advertisement
Testar
Advertisement