Go Back   IceInSpace > Equipment > Equipment Discussions

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread
  #1  
Old 30-05-2022, 11:44 PM
Joshua Bunn's Avatar
Joshua Bunn (Joshua)
Registered User

Joshua Bunn is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Albany, Western Australia
Posts: 1,461
your thoughts on astrophotography accesories

Hello all,


I'm looking to hear peoples ideas on what they would like to see on an imaging rig that is currently not on the market or is scarcely available.



It could be something that goes between the back of the scope and camera, (in the image train) to make life as an astrophotographer easier. It could be a bracket that holds a computer or power box that is mounted on the dovetail of the scope. Maybe an integrated adapter such as a tilter and manual rotator all in one compact unit that would free up back focus space.


What ever it is, please, post your ideas here. I have the capacity to produce items in numbers, so this wouldn't be a one off custom design for each person (although I'm happy to do a custom one ), rather something that can be used on many setups.


Cheers, Joshua

Last edited by Joshua Bunn; 03-06-2022 at 11:30 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 31-05-2022, 12:41 AM
floyd_2's Avatar
floyd_2 (Dean)
Registered User

floyd_2 is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Cecil Hills (Sydney)
Posts: 551
Hi Joshua,
I was considering grabbing a Pegasus Pocket Power Box Advance Gen2 but mounting it turned out to be a bit problematic for me as I wanted to be able to switch it between two OTAs. My ideal setup would be a dovetail with a riser that would fit into a standard finder shoe. To be honest, I’ve gone off the idea for now and have wired my rig in another way. But the power box ideally needs a way of mounting it onto an OTA that isn’t permanent and doesn’t require a screwdriver to remove it and doesn’t need the weight of an accessory rail.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 31-05-2022, 08:53 AM
h0ughy's Avatar
h0ughy (David)
Moderator

h0ughy is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: NEWCASTLE NSW Australia
Posts: 33,157
Mine would be ability to mount 3 scopes on a mount with losmandy style connections in a triangle with ability to synchronise to central scope, likes for solar imaging etc can do white light and haplha at same time and can have one scope left for deepsky. That way your ready to roll in the observatory with everything all setup without having to change a thing, or can image say with wo132 and wide field at same time with redcat51 and do daylight solar with Lunt 60. In a done side by side doesn't work. Mount for guidecscope as well
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 31-05-2022, 08:55 AM
gregbradley's Avatar
gregbradley
Registered User

gregbradley is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Sydney
Posts: 17,893
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joshua Bunn View Post
Hello all,


I'm looking to hear peoples ideas on what they would like to see on an imaging rig that is currently not on the market or is scarcely available.



It could be something that goes between the back of the scope and camera, (in the image train) to make life as an astrophotographer easier. It could be a bracket that holds a computer or power box that is mounted on the dovetail of the scope. Maybe an integrated adapter such as a tilter and manual rotator all in one compact unit that would free up back focus space.


What ever it is, please, post your ideas here. I have the capacity to produce items in numbers, so this wouldn't be a one off custom design for each person, rather something that can be used on many setups.


Cheers, Joshua
A precise tilter and rotater that does not take up much backfocus sounds like a valuable adapter. It would have to be strong to handle weight without flex.

Basically anyone who uses these small pixelled CMOS cameras needs to adjust for tilt. Being also able to rotate without introducing tilt (some Tak CCAs have been known to introduce tilt) would be valuable for framing.

Full frame cameras need it most then the APSc sized then the smaller sensors. Fast scopes need it more than longer focal length scopes.

Greg.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 31-05-2022, 10:32 AM
AdamJL
Registered User

AdamJL is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,100
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joshua Bunn View Post
It could be a bracket that holds a computer or power box that is mounted on the dovetail of the scope.
Ha, this sounds familiar
Dean also sees the merit, it appears!

You should show off the one we've got planned and see if there's any interest (although that one is specific to PLL hole spacing, it can be "generalised" fairly easily)

Anyway + 1 to the idea of a very accurate rotator and/or tilt adjuster. That would make my day.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 31-05-2022, 04:50 PM
mura_gadi's Avatar
mura_gadi (Steve)
SpeakingB4Thinking

mura_gadi is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Canberra
Posts: 829
Not really to do with AP per say, but I'd guess marketable items might be oversizing user grips/screws options on the scopes. Similar to items built for arthritic complaints - larger grip pens, thicker handles on the can openers etc.

Larger tool free screw heads, for locking EP's in and associated tubes/adaptors, also handy for the glove users.

A slip over larger wheel for focuser wheels, allows for finer focus and a little more forgiving if you have arty in the hands.

I know I have seen lots of posts from people looking to extend their astronomy as illness or age make themselves felt.

Last edited by mura_gadi; 31-05-2022 at 05:07 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 31-05-2022, 05:23 PM
AdamJL
Registered User

AdamJL is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 2,100
I like that idea as well.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 31-05-2022, 06:13 PM
Logieberra's Avatar
Logieberra (Logan)
Registered User

Logieberra is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Canberra
Posts: 1,635
Is there a market for Astrodon-style large OAGs but at local prices?
I have a MMOAG - it’s amazing - but costly…
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 31-05-2022, 08:41 PM
DJT (David)
Registered User

DJT is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Sydney
Posts: 1,452
Quote:
Originally Posted by Logieberra View Post
Is there a market for Astrodon-style large OAGs but at local prices?
I have a MMOAG - it’s amazing - but costly…
+ 1 for the MMOAG. Fantastic bits of kit. A rotator would also be good but set it up so a motor could be added later on?

Cheers
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-06-2022, 01:00 AM
Joshua Bunn's Avatar
Joshua Bunn (Joshua)
Registered User

Joshua Bunn is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Albany, Western Australia
Posts: 1,461
Thanks for writing guys. there are some good suggestions here, some of which might be better suited as a as needed basis or custom type job.



Quote:
Originally Posted by DJT View Post
+ 1 for the MMOAG. Fantastic bits of kit. A rotator would also be good but set it up so a motor could be added later on?

Cheers

Thanks David,
I also like the idea of developing an Aussie made OAG. regarding the rotator, I will start on a manual design, first.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Logieberra View Post
Is there a market for Astrodon-style large OAGs but at local prices?
I have a MMOAG - it’s amazing - but costly…

Ill see what I can do mate.


Quote:
Originally Posted by mura_gadi View Post
Not really to do with AP per say, but I'd guess marketable items might be oversizing user grips/screws options on the scopes. Similar to items built for arthritic complaints - larger grip pens, thicker handles on the can openers etc.

Larger tool free screw heads, for locking EP's in and associated tubes/adaptors, also handy for the glove users.

A slip over larger wheel for focuser wheels, allows for finer focus and a little more forgiving if you have arty in the hands.

I know I have seen lots of posts from people looking to extend their astronomy as illness or age make themselves felt.

Hi Steve, sounds like it could be a good thing. I'm happy to do these on an as needed basis.


Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamJL View Post
Ha, this sounds familiar
Dean also sees the merit, it appears!

You should show off the one we've got planned and see if there's any interest (although that one is specific to PLL hole spacing, it can be "generalised" fairly easily)

Anyway + 1 to the idea of a very accurate rotator and/or tilt adjuster. That would make my day.

Hey Adam, Ill put up some pictures of your completed one.


Quote:
Originally Posted by gregbradley View Post
A precise tilter and rotater that does not take up much backfocus sounds like a valuable adapter. It would have to be strong to handle weight without flex.

Basically anyone who uses these small pixelled CMOS cameras needs to adjust for tilt. Being also able to rotate without introducing tilt (some Tak CCAs have been known to introduce tilt) would be valuable for framing.

Full frame cameras need it most then the APSc sized then the smaller sensors. Fast scopes need it more than longer focal length scopes.

Greg.

This is something I am going to prototype, and as discussed in PM, I'll send one out to you to try.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 01-06-2022, 01:10 AM
Joshua Bunn's Avatar
Joshua Bunn (Joshua)
Registered User

Joshua Bunn is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Albany, Western Australia
Posts: 1,461
Quote:
Originally Posted by h0ughy View Post
Mine would be ability to mount 3 scopes on a mount with losmandy style connections in a triangle with ability to synchronise to central scope, likes for solar imaging etc can do white light and haplha at same time and can have one scope left for deepsky. That way your ready to roll in the observatory with everything all setup without having to change a thing, or can image say with wo132 and wide field at same time with redcat51 and do daylight solar with Lunt 60. In a done side by side doesn't work. Mount for guidecscope as well

Hi David. Do you mean a pointing style like one of the two attached?
Attached Thumbnails
Click for full-size image (20220531_230933.jpg)
58.8 KB40 views
Click for full-size image (20220531_230919.jpg)
89.2 KB31 views
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 01-06-2022, 01:13 AM
Joshua Bunn's Avatar
Joshua Bunn (Joshua)
Registered User

Joshua Bunn is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Albany, Western Australia
Posts: 1,461
Hi Dean,

For some reason the quoting is not working for me.
I'm doing a computer / Pegasus Power box bracket for AdamJL at the moment, maybe something like that might interest you.


Thanks
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 01-06-2022, 07:35 AM
h0ughy's Avatar
h0ughy (David)
Moderator

h0ughy is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: NEWCASTLE NSW Australia
Posts: 33,157
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joshua Bunn View Post
Hi David. Do you mean a pointing style like one of the two attached?
Yes something similar more largest scope in middle with smaller on the triangle either side
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 01-06-2022, 09:07 AM
Joshua Bunn's Avatar
Joshua Bunn (Joshua)
Registered User

Joshua Bunn is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Albany, Western Australia
Posts: 1,461
Quote:
Originally Posted by h0ughy View Post
Yes something similar more largest scope in middle with smaller on the triangle either side

Looking from the back view?
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 01-06-2022, 09:31 AM
h0ughy's Avatar
h0ughy (David)
Moderator

h0ughy is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: NEWCASTLE NSW Australia
Posts: 33,157
Yes
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 01-06-2022, 12:01 PM
Drac0's Avatar
Drac0 (Mark)
Registered User

Drac0 is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Nowra, NSW
Posts: 530
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joshua Bunn View Post
Hi Dean,

For some reason the quoting is not working for me.
I'm doing a computer / Pegasus Power box bracket for AdamJL at the moment, maybe something like that might interest you.


Thanks
I've seen that a number of mini pc's have vesa compliant mounting, something that works with that would be good.
Mark
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 01-06-2022, 01:13 PM
Logieberra's Avatar
Logieberra (Logan)
Registered User

Logieberra is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Canberra
Posts: 1,635
Takahashi owners have to fork out big coin for the Tak finder quick release. FQ-R-1. It’s not a complicated design. Half goes on the finder, other half on scope. It just lets you take the darn finder off! Might be of interest…
Attached Thumbnails
Click for full-size image (611A0D0E-0E2D-4DE3-8A3E-389DFFBDC439.jpeg)
11.1 KB26 views
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 01-06-2022, 03:05 PM
Joshua Bunn's Avatar
Joshua Bunn (Joshua)
Registered User

Joshua Bunn is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Albany, Western Australia
Posts: 1,461
Quote:
Originally Posted by Drac0 View Post
I've seen that a number of mini pc's have vesa compliant mounting, something that works with that would be good.
Mark
Is this what you refer to, Mark?
https://www.oneforall-australia.com....andard#/step-1
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 01-06-2022, 03:54 PM
Drac0's Avatar
Drac0 (Mark)
Registered User

Drac0 is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Nowra, NSW
Posts: 530
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joshua Bunn View Post
I guess...LOL

This is the one that comes with MeLE mini pc's. https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/...AC_SL1500_.jpg
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 02-06-2022, 06:44 PM
Sunfish's Avatar
Sunfish (Ray)
Registered User

Sunfish is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Wollongong
Posts: 1,909
A big impossible 72mm OAG only 20mm thick with at least one dovetail scope side adapter including a short t2 threaded guide camera mount.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +10. The time is now 01:42 PM.

Powered by vBulletin Version 3.8.7 | Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Advertisement
Testar
Advertisement
Bintel
Advertisement