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Canon EOS 5D Mark III



Unsurpassed Image Quality

* 22.3 Megapixel Full Frame CMOS sensor
* DiG!C 5+ Image Processor
* ISO 100-25600 (expandable to L:50 H1:51200, H2: 102400
* Full HD Movie (ISO 100-12800 (H:25600)

High Performance Operation

* 61-point high-density reticular AF (up to 41 crosstype points)
* 6.0 fps for high continuous shooting
* Intelligent viewfinder with approx. 100% coverage
* 3.2-type, approx.1.04m dot (3:2 wide) Clear View LCD II
* iFCL metering with 63-zone dual-layer sensor
* Shutter durability of 150,000 cycles

High end features

* Silent & low vibration modes
* Dual card slots (CF & SD)
* High Dynamic Range (HDR) Mode
* Multiple Exposures
* Comparative Playback function
* Improved durability & water and dust resistance

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ISO 25,600 NATIVE! The D800 tops out at that in H1 mode.

Do we have the new low light king here?

I'll be placing an order; it will play alongside its older siblings.

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Old 02-03-2012, 12:26 AM
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LOL. I was wondering how long it would take you to post

I'm very much looking forward to seeing how it performs.. Now to find the money to buy one....
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Old 02-03-2012, 12:34 AM
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Poop - have been dreaming about the 1Dx ever since it was announced. Now this appears and has enough qualities (and in some ways overlap) that I need to seriously consider this and some nice glass for around the same cost as the 1Dx ...
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What's the body cost going to be?
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Old 02-03-2012, 07:06 AM
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About $3,500-$4,200.

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Old 02-03-2012, 03:01 PM
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It's official.

http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/profes...os_5d_mark_iii

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Old 02-03-2012, 03:19 PM
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ISO-6400 now gives the same performance as ISO-1600 on the Mark II.

Oh, boy.

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Old 02-03-2012, 04:18 PM
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H,

You must be elated...improved sensor, 61 point AF, etc, etc!

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don't suppose it needs a flash now - with that sort of ISO depth
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Old 02-03-2012, 04:46 PM
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I am over the moon, Terry!

Jen, as it is predominantly a studio/landscape system, flash is still required for non-natural light portraiture/photography.

Where it will excel is in shooting weddings in low light (think dark churches with very minimial natural light; I can get away with ISO-3200 now and it's clean, but, the ability to now push to ISO-12,800 (equivalent) is just sensational).

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It looks to be a nice improvement over the 5D 2.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-...-iii-hands-on/

The wireless flash you mentioned though is not in this one but a $499 accessory. D800 has one built in. Also no flash but then I suppose a lot of pros would use an external flash unit. Amateurs like me want a built in flash.

Its as you would expect, a good number of mp and improved processor allowing better high ISO performance versus D800 with high mp and still good high ISO but no match for this.

The inevitable shootouts and comparisons will be interesting.

Gotta say it seems not as good bang for your buck as the Nikon on the surface at least. AUD$935 more for the 5D mark iii ($3465 versus $4400 http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/03/ca...ost-from-4399/) , no flash, no wireless flash unit, high ISO is a plus but less mp, less rugged body, both processors I am assuming are probably similar in performance, both dual memory, video seems similar - not sure about the ability to change settings mid-recording the 5D mark iii can do if the D800 can do that - not sure. Builit in HDR I think both can do, D800 has a time lapse function, menus etc is probably a user preferred thing for either.
D800 also has autofocus for video - perhaps not important to some.

If you are already using a 5D and want an upgrade and have lots of Canon lenses it seems a worthwhile upgrade but I don't see anything there that is too exciting for my uses. Although it would seem on paper this new 5D mark 111 would be the camera of choice for astroimaging or night time lapse. Until a Nikon D400 comes out at least.

I wonder if the rumours about a 45mp 5DX have any merit or if there
is any mention about this in the media coverage of this release.

Oh and another good thing, Canon is retaining the mark ii and dropping its price much like Nikon keeping the D700 and dropping its price. Competition is a good thing!

For what its worth a Ken Rockwell quick evaluation of the camera:

http://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/5d-mk-iii.htm

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A couple of full size shots of aurora taken with the 5D mk3 + 24 f1.4 lens at f2.8:

http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/sam...wnloads/01.jpg

http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/sam...wnloads/02.jpg

The processing and noise reduction look a bit heavy handed to me, but it is interesting to note the second hand shot is just 0.6 of a second.

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I'm doubting a 5Dx but willing to put money on the 1 series splitting back to a 1Dxs with higher MP count.
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Old 02-03-2012, 11:21 PM
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Canon has a history of putting fairly average images online to showcase their new systems. I honestly don't understand why.

But, I'm excited, nonetheless.

Simon, that's quite interesting. I've read nothing about the potential/rumoured split of the 1DX.

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Those 2 aurora shots are terrible. Noisy, coma in stars, chromatic aberration uncorrected. There are any number of people on this site who could've done a far better job than that. Perhaps we should offer our services to the Canon marketing Dept. And I think they were trying to showcase the low light performance of the mark iii. Fail. I'm sure its better than that.

Low light ISO is more for indoors type night shots without a flash or perhaps early evening like weddings or dinners/parties. Otherwise a flash. So I am not sure what all the fuss is about high ISO performance in the camera forums as if its the be all end all. For astronomy I think its pretty meaningless as these shots show.

Unless you have a lens that does not give coma in the corners and chromatic aberration at the edges then you need to stop down. You need to track the camera and do longer exposures at modest ISO to avoid star trails and get some sharpness and signal.

This came home to me imaging comet Lovejoy over Christmas. The only shots I got that I was happy with were tracked.

I think for your work Humi this camera would be awesome, everything upgraded on a camera you were already really happy with.

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Old 03-03-2012, 07:41 AM
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For landscape/astro shooters the new camera should be a huge dissapointment. It certainly is to me.

The examples look really bad. They have blotchy patches of NR where chrominance noise was. It seems they put a heavy AA filter on the 5DIII as they did on the 7D to help video. This goes in detriment of IQ for photography. Nikon noticed this effect and released two versions of the D800.

The 5DIII is a fantastic camera for JPG shooters of sports & events. For reporters and for videographers but for Studio, Landscape and Astro it's not good. Not good at all.

Nikon made the logical evolution of the 5DII and now Canon makes the logical evolution of the D700. Oh the Irony!
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Just saw this preproduction high ISO test of 5D mark iii.

The high ISO performance is unreal:

http://www.dpreview.com/galleries/re...ht-iso-samples

Definitely this will be the main strength of this camera.

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Old 03-03-2012, 08:55 AM
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It all sounds great, BUT, if one has a Canon 5D original, or maybe a Mark11, and it serves one well and produces the goods so to speak, why up grade at all, but rather stick to what one has.

As the saying goes, (if it aint broke don't fix it)

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Luis,

I am pretty certain that those samples are JPGs straight from the camera, and, not RAW. I wish they didn't do this. My understanding from what I've read is they show these samples to indicate what the "average" user can expect. I don't understand why they do this on their prosumer and professional lines. Surely, they should show the best that is achievable by the system in the hands of one who is skilled enough to make art. Example: in your hands -- you make wonderful images.

Leon,

For high ISO performance.

ISO-3200 is as far as I'd push the Mark II for low light weddings. With the Mark III, ISO-6400 is the new ISO-1600. That is, an extra two stops of usability. That is an enormous bonus for those who do low light work.

In regular sized wedding albums, ISO-1600 from the original, ISO-3200 from the Mark II, and, now, ISO-6400 images from the Mark III will be more than useable in print.

You're right, though, the original and the Mark II do an amazing job already. The 61-point autofocus and tracking addition on the Mark III, though, is very welcome.

I'm off to Fyshwick to see if I can place a deposit on one.

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D-D-P have just sent out their pre-order announcement (mine received by email):

http://www.d-d-photographics.com.au/...ampaign=5D+III

AUD $3,739.00

Stock expected "March/April" (whatever that means).
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