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Old 15-02-2025, 08:23 PM
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Thanks Bob,
The DSLR is not sharp because the Kit lens is of poor quality.

The evolution of technology is amazing

BTW - there was no sharpening or any processing done to either image.

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Totally agree Allan, and never thought you may have sharpened the image in PS, I did not quite comment in length enough to explain the sharpening effect is definitely due to the phones onboard computations of the image, exactly I really do Not know but something onboard, could be an image auto preset processing algorithm logged in for macro settings, any which way was not intended you interfering or trying to pull a fast one, not at all mate

By-The-Way That Macro competition link lead to quite some amazing images, thnx for sharing that too, I enjoyed sifting through them and reading up further on your thread..

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Old 15-02-2025, 08:44 PM
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Totally agree Allan, and never thought you may have sharpened the image in PS, I did not quite comment in length enough to explain the sharpening effect is definitely due to the phones onboard computations of the image, exactly I really do Not know but something onboard, could be an image auto preset processing algorithm logged in for macro settings, any which way was not intended you interfering or trying to pull a fast one, not at all mate

By-The-Way That Macro competition link lead to quite some amazing images, thnx for sharing that too, I enjoyed sifting through them and reading up further on your thread..

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Thanks Bob,
it's not only that - the latest S series Samsung phones
do not have the real RAW .DNG files.
It looks like Samsung doesn't want to give you the RAW data.

so you get this silly sharpening effect as we discovered here:
https://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/...e.php?a=324427

It's designed for the masses to take a shot and quickly email
off a cut down version to their friends by email or social media.

If you want to do it properly you use a DSLR or the
latest mirrorless cameras such as Olympus types and
you work on the RAW files in Photoshop to make a large
print to hang on your wall or enter into a photo competition.

Still - I think it's a pity that an entire generation of
original, virgin data has been deleted out of existence.

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Old 16-02-2025, 10:20 AM
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Wow, that macro competition takes everyone right into an alien world.
Thanks for the link Allan!


Speaking of RAW I have an old S8 I recently learnt has burst mode which allowed me to capture lightning a few nights back during a storm. I can't however find the RAW mode. The image had to be darkened up in lightroom because it was very light outside and I wouldn't have bothered with my old method using a DSLR because of the light intensity but my son could see the flash going through the 100 quick succession shots. I think 2 decent photos out of 1,000 or so. I don't care, I just kept my finger on the shutter blob and took 100 frames per lot.
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Old 16-02-2025, 03:46 PM
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Wow, that macro competition takes everyone right into an alien world.
Thanks for the link Allan!


Speaking of RAW I have an old S8 I recently learnt has burst mode which allowed me to capture lightning a few nights back during a storm. I can't however find the RAW mode. The image had to be darkened up in lightroom because it was very light outside and I wouldn't have bothered with my old method using a DSLR because of the light intensity but my son could see the flash going through the 100 quick succession shots. I think 2 decent photos out of 1,000 or so. I don't care, I just kept my finger on the shutter blob and took 100 frames per lot.

Yes Leo,
insects? -
it's all about focus stacking.
I have done that before using trial versions of Helicon and Zerene.

It's interesting to try different modes in cameras.
Some cameras can do stacking for you:
https://learnandsupport.getolympus.c...ting-with-om-d

As for lightning -
I suppose video is the best?

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I see a lot of lightning shots snatched from a video source but it's easy to get without resorting to video and I think the non video images are crisper (though I'd love to get a huge coastal storm with multiple strikes one day)
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I've been shooting lightning for years, it's always been a favourite target and one day it will probably get me, I stand out in big electrical storms in bare feet on grass, no possible easy target at all. The first lightning shots I ever got were with 35mm film and I sat on the ridge capping on a tin roof (bare legs draped either side of tin roof) in a huge electrical storm in Young (NSW) wearing shorts, no shirt and no shoes, yes, I'm an IDIOT at times but I'm still here.

I put my tripod/ball head mounted camera on bulb exposure (no good if it's too bright out), set my ISO depending on the severity of the storm (all guess work), the f stop depending on light conditions and use a remote trigger and hold the shutter open for up to around 15 seconds hoping to get a single shot. If I see a flash where the camera is pointing I release the shutter within 1 second of the flash. I'll check the images aren't blown out and adjust my times depending on that (and set the f stop). My timing is just a count in my head, no actual timer but I believe I know roughly what 1 second is.

I then come inside and go through hundreds of shots to see what I have but I have some remarkable images using that method.
Leon recently mentioned buying a dedicated trigger for his trip up North, I don't know how that worked but I know his trip was cut short because of health.


I can't find the folder, my son probably put it something appropriately named (I have Jupiter in a folder named "Lightning") but I recently played with burst mode on my Samsung S8 phone and got a couple of shots of lightning, took around 1,000 shots but got 2 usable images with lightning. It is all pot luck with my method, you either get lucky or not.
I have a bag with all of the electronic components to build a trigger device somewhere, I must look for the bits and do a circuit board for it, or find more components I'll have here somewhere if I can find the circuit again.
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I see a lot of lightning shots snatched from a video source but it's easy to get without resorting to video and I think the non video images are crisper
Hi Leo,
you seem to have done well with your lightning pics.

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Old 21-02-2025, 12:33 AM
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Thanks Allan, right place right time.
I actually put provisions to mount a ball head inside my toilet window, a covered stud sticks up through some blocks with reinforcing aluminium bar between them (screwed on window sill) and I can remove the cover, screw a ballhead and mount a camera in seconds. It sounds weird but it's the only window I have a north easterly view through without trees blocking the view and if a storm brews up in the east I can stand out of the rain with my camera, push the fly screen out and image storms. As long as the rain is't pelting down from that direction. Unfortunately I missed the biggest storm I've seen in the region on the day I came up with the idea because I misplaced my blocks and stud while I searched for the aluminium to reinforce between the 2 blocks of timber. By the time I found them the storm was over, I was so, well, I can't type what I was it's rude and not appreciated on this forum but rest assured I was mad at myself and my lack of memory. The things were literally right in front of me but I didn't see them

It's something I've been taking images of for years, I'm somewhat infatuated with the light displays.
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