Forty Signs of Rain

pmrid (Peter) · #1 13-11-2021, 11:23 AM

This Kim Stanley Robinson book was first published almost 20 years ago and I confess I didn’t take it too seriously. That was then. But now, I am re-reading it and I am both impressed by the research and alarmed at the message. Every delegate to COP20 should have been given a copy.

Stonius (Markus) · #2 13-11-2021, 12:57 PM

So what is i basically saying? (for those of us who haven't read it)

pmrid (Peter) · #3 13-11-2021, 01:02 PM

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So what is i basically saying? (for those of us who haven't read it)

Climate change will disrupt ocean currents, kill off marine species, cause icecap loss, rising tides, fresh water/salt water layer inversions in the oceans- all that good stuff.

xelasnave · #4 13-11-2021, 01:19 PM

Climate change does not happen..the climate has been the same since day one

Alex

Stonius (Markus) · #5 13-11-2021, 01:43 PM

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Climate change does not happen..the climate has been the same since day one

Alex

Alex, Alex, Alex...

Just when the mods were having a peaceful Saturday morning...

I live in Melbourne, where the climate won't even stay the same for ONE day! Although it's been pretty consistently crap lately thanks to El Nina. But we need the rain so we can grow enough fuel for next summers' apocalyptic bushfire season.

Markus

LewisM · #6 13-11-2021, 03:11 PM

Cop20 = copout20

xelasnave · #7 13-11-2021, 04:32 PM

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Alex, Alex, Alex...

Just when the mods were having a peaceful Saturday morning...

I live in Melbourne, where the climate won't even stay the same for ONE day! Although it's been pretty consistently crap lately thanks to El Nina. But we need the rain so we can grow enough fuel for next summers' apocalyptic bushfire season.

Markus

In comedy you have a straight man who sets up the star to do his thing...who will come forward?
Alex

Zuts · #8 14-11-2021, 08:25 PM

Wait another 500 million years, then you will see some serious global warming...

xelasnave · #9 15-11-2021, 12:05 PM

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Wait another 500 million years, then you will see some serious global warming...

The prospect of waiting 500 million years is very appealing I must say...I would like to do that very much ...imagine all you could get done in 500 million years ... I could get to make all my astronomy gear work for a start.
Last night although weary from trying to solve all the problems in the world and deciding they can work things out for themselves, I made some progress in the observatory by finally completing a polar alignment for the new RASA 11 on EQ8R ...it was surprising how close I got it just by eye balling it no doubt a skill related to yrars of pool and snooker...the tripod did not have to be moved which was something I was very worried that I might need to do...so I was going to try to image but the thing needs to be balanced, a power supply provided, the camera fitted for real and so I thought be happy with what got done and call it a night...

Is it me or has the climate change story been receiving less coverage lately?

Alex

LewisM · #10 15-11-2021, 12:29 PM

Mid November and we have snow on the alps here, and due to drop to zero tonight in Canberra. Small hale storm yesterday… La Niña has made her presence known

multiweb (Marc) · #11 15-11-2021, 12:32 PM

I haven't seen that much green in the garden, trees and lawn since 1998.

N1 (Mirko) · #12 15-11-2021, 02:50 PM

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The prospect of waiting 500 million years is very appealing I must say...I would like to do that very much ...imagine all you could get done in 500 million years ...

You could grow a beard that's approx. 91,000km long.

sharkbite · #13 15-11-2021, 03:18 PM

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... I could get to make all my astronomy gear work for a start.

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Is it me or has the climate change story been receiving less coverage lately?

Alex

Yes it has been displaced by this bad flu thingy...

xelasnave · #14 15-11-2021, 03:47 PM

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Yes it has been displaced by this bad flu thingy...

Thats somewhat a relief as I have noticed people just don't tell me stuff these days...and that is such a shame as I always help them by pointing out where they are wrong...the doctors are always just speechless.

I wonder what will come up when both the climate change and the bad flu thingy become just tired news.

What new drama is waiting for us I wonder?

I dont know but I have a feeling crop circles are ready for a big come back...now that makes sense when you think how things a greener and rather lush...funny I was watching the long grass a couple of paddocks away and it looked like an invisible herd of animals with " Preditor" characteristics there but not there ...and just looking now there are quiet a few...maybe if they panic and run around in circles we could have flattened grass. Being invisible they are difficult to describe accurately.
Alex

sharkbite · #15 15-11-2021, 04:11 PM

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I wonder what will come up when both the climate change and the bad flu thingy become just tired news.

What new drama is waiting for us I wonder?

Alex

Well taking an extremely 'strayan point of view....

...we've had Drought , Fire, Flood, Pestilence...

That only leaves Famine and War...

My Money is on WW3

That or Trump 2024 ;-)

xelasnave · #16 15-11-2021, 04:30 PM

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My Money is on WW3

That or Trump 2024 ;-)

Could you have one without the other?.

Alex

xelasnave · #17 15-11-2021, 04:34 PM

Anyways sorry Peter and in an effort to get things back on track I found this when I googled...a bit different but interesting his readership.

https://www.audible.com.au/pd/The-Mi...ook/1405541121

Publisher's Summary
Chosen by Barack Obama as one of his favourite reads of 2020

Established in 2025, the purpose of the new organisation was simple: to advocate for the world's future generations and to protect all living creatures, present and future. It soon became known as the Ministry for the Future, and this is its story.

From legendary science-fiction author Kim Stanley Robinson comes a vision of climate change unlike any ever imagined.

Told entirely through fictional eye-witness accounts, The Ministry for the Future is a masterpiece of the imagination, the story of how climate change will affect us all over the decades to come.

Its setting is not a desolate, post-apocalyptic world, but a future that is almost upon us - and in which we might just overcome the extraordinary challenges we face.

It is a novel both immediate and impactful, desperate and hopeful in equal measure, and it is one of the most powerful and original books on climate change ever written.

Mike92 (Mike) · #18 23-11-2021, 09:27 AM

2021 conference renamed to COP26 to confuse...who?

JA · #19 23-11-2021, 09:37 AM

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2021 conference renamed to COP26 to confuse...who?

It's simply the 26th conference since they started back in the 1990s; however: I agree that it is somewhat unhelpfully named.

Best
JA