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Old 30-05-2021, 03:07 PM
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A return to the van.

...well today I drove there all by myself and had big plans to sort things out but only managed to pick up my 80mm and my Nikon and the beautiful wood box that Glen made to house the 115 mm triplet that I purchased from him...I dont have any plans but I just needed something to have nearby that reminds me of everything else.

I knocked up so quick but I figure its a start.

There were two dead mice on the floor in the van and rats have been in but I did not have the courage to look at the cables on my mounts in either observatory...really to tired to open the doors of either...

best..

I did try walking each morning but they put me on some blood pressure meds and blood thinner to remove the blood clot in my neck due to the operation and that seemed to put me back...but the good thing about today is I feel I have started on the way back.

Dont know how long I have but I am not going to spend time left in bed if I can help it.

And I needed something to pick me up from some very sad news..many of you would have heard me talk about the guy I let live in a van at the other place I had my first two observatories at where now the other lady lives...well I found out day before yesterday that he passed away from cancer in the throat just ywo weeks ago..I did not know he had it...I dont know but I think "they" kept the news from me so I wasn't able to go to the funeral...I am not going to pursue it as if they did not tell me but knew it was for my own good...but really what a coincidence..his cancer was different to mine and he had not received any treatment.

So another great day...and finding my water bear topped off days of hunting.

I just had to share with my friends here and I will tell my other two friends when I ring them tonight.
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Old 30-05-2021, 04:25 PM
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Old 30-05-2021, 05:24 PM
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Sorry to hear about your Mate passing. Positive attitude Alex. I hope the mice did not get in the scope box. Glen
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Old 30-05-2021, 05:27 PM
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Old 31-05-2021, 06:32 AM
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Excellent Alex, you would have to be the most positive person I know in your situation.
Thinking of you often Mate, and such sad news about your friend Alex.
Thanks for sharing this with your IIS community.

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Old 31-05-2021, 08:23 AM
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Old 31-05-2021, 11:19 AM
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Kewep Well. Oneday when I next get to casino I would love to give you a book "The Big Bang Expoded."
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Old 31-05-2021, 12:07 PM
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Thanks everyone for understanding how this place plays such a huge part in my life.

And John...
I assume the book does not accept the big bang theory and my further assumption is that you perhaps think I accept the big bag theory...well I do from a scientific point of view in so far as it is the current accepted theory and there is no other theory that is able to replace it...however personally I really dont think the theory of inflation ( It was a band aid and a damn pity it hasn't been replaced) is satisfactory, as in my view ( not that my view matters) it really is not science...however leaving that aside I dont like the big bang theory because the idea has most folk seeing it as suggesting a point of creation, and here I note that I recognise the theory only seeks to deal with the evolution of the universe after a point in time (supposedly the start of time) upon which the theory makes no comment upon..what happened, what came before? ...dont know...however there would be a lot of folk who would see that point as a point of creation and hyjack the theory to support philosophies entertaining an entity capable of creating a universe....and look to who presented the idea...a priest!!! A brilliant scientist but I cant help but think his back ground could have influenced his direction...I like to remind folk that the big bang theory takes us to dealing with a hot dense something not a "nothing" which would be the prime ingredient of a "created" universe.

In any event,in a belief that I have an understanding of what is your philosophy, I would point out that proving or disproving the big bang theory goes nowhere in proving or disproving the existence of an entity capable of creating a universe, much the same as proving or disproving the theory of evolution can do likewise...the proof of your philosophy can only stand on its own proof and you cant rely on scoreing points by discrediting existing established science....such proofs are irrelevant although clearly there are those who think its a winner takes all game...well it is not.

Nevertheless I would really like to meet you in person and have a chat and see if I can help you with your proposed astronomy night.
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Old 01-06-2021, 11:17 AM
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Thanks everyone for understanding how this place plays such a huge part in my life.

And John...
I assume the book does not accept the big bang theory and my further assumption is that you perhaps think I accept the big bag theory...well I do from a scientific point of view in so far as it is the current accepted theory and there is no other theory that is able to replace it...however personally I really dont think the theory of inflation ( It was a band aid and a damn pity it hasn't been replaced) is satisfactory, as in my view ( not that my view matters) it really is not science...however leaving that aside I dont like the big bang theory because the idea has most folk seeing it as suggesting a point of creation, and here I note that I recognise the theory only seeks to deal with the evolution of the universe after a point in time (supposedly the start of time) upon which the theory makes no comment upon..what happened, what came before? ...dont know...however there would be a lot of folk who would see that point as a point of creation and hyjack the theory to support philosophies entertaining an entity capable of creating a universe....and look to who presented the idea...a priest!!! A brilliant scientist but I cant help but think his back ground could have influenced his direction...I like to remind folk that the big bang theory takes us to dealing with a hot dense something not a "nothing" which would be the prime ingredient of a "created" universe.

In any event,in a belief that I have an understanding of what is your philosophy, I would point out that proving or disproving the big bang theory goes nowhere in proving or disproving the existence of an entity capable of creating a universe, much the same as proving or disproving the theory of evolution can do likewise...the proof of your philosophy can only stand on its own proof and you cant rely on scoreing points by discrediting existing established science....such proofs are irrelevant although clearly there are those who think its a winner takes all game...well it is not.

Nevertheless I would really like to meet you in person and have a chat and see if I can help you with your proposed astronomy night.
Alex
hope to get together with you soon. Next time I go to RFS headquarters at Casino on Sunday, could take my sleeping bag, and drop in the next day, Monday.

Know proving the big bang is wrong, does not prove anything, other than perhaps some are deceived by what they are fed.

90% of all research Papers on Cosmology is theoretical, and only 10% is based on observations according to the claim of this book,

And this book shows how some university experiments found a photon can travel at 1.7 times the speed of light, which is thought to be a constant according to E=MC squared, see Scientific American, August 1993.

"Dr. John Hucha ofthe Harvard Smithsonian Center uttered two words that cause theorists to quake in their boots:
Magnetic fields [Scientific American, July 1992]
The reason that scientists quake at these two words is that they have not, as yet, evaluated the significance of magnetic fields in relation to their Big Bang theory."

"Some cosmological models incorporating cold dark matter can account for the existence of large clusters and super clusters of galaxies. None can do both. Some researchers therefore suspect that cold dark matter may turn out to be a chimera. "The physicists have been enormously reluctant to accept what astronomy shows them" says [Arno] Penzias [Noble laureate and co-discoverer of background microwaves in 1964], who argues in favor of a less dense universe containing only ordinary matter. "Colds dark matter is dead." [James] Peebles [of Princeton University] agrees" Scientific American, July 1992.

So Alex this book "The Big Bang Exploded" had lots of evidence against the theory.
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Old 01-06-2021, 12:03 PM
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All I can suggest is to remember the saying "a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing".
And sometimes it is easy to overlook the fact that perhaps a professional cosmologist may understand things a little better than a layman.

And more than that to recognise that the merit of accepting the dictates of the scientific method on the balance of things is the most desirable system we have as humans. A scientific theory is so much more than the term we use in everyday speak and it is perhaps best to think of scientific theory as meaning "a rock solid fact evidenced by repeatable tests and experiment that can only be overturned by a better theory which takes us further than the theory to be replaced whilst also explaining everything to greater satisfaction than the theory to be replaced"...and also to remember that one can destroy that theory if you can come up with something better.

Now I totally think the concept of dark matter is wrong however to offer a theory that establishes an alternative is for me impossible and so far for everyone else on the planet... sure you can have alternative ideas and what could seem reasonable critism but coming up with a better theory requires just more than a simple statement...you should take the time to read the Wiki entry re The Philosophy of Science and Karl Popper...I dont get too worried and hold the belief that the truth may evade humans and it may never be known to us.

As to getting together it will be a little way off as I still have not recovered sufficient to drive unfortunately.

And that 12 inch ..it seems the guy I offerred it to does not want it so in time I will arrange to get it to the fire shed so you can have it..the mirror needs redoing but even as is it is usable...
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Old 02-06-2021, 09:04 AM
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Great to hear you up and about
Also more importantly a positive attitude
Interesting thread later on too
Hope you get some clear skies to image again soon
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At casino library later as have AGM tonight, but will arrange to one another day as am hitchhiking to Tweed heads tonight.

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All I can suggest is to remember the saying "a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing".
And sometimes it is easy to overlook the fact that perhaps a professional cosmologist may understand things a little better than a layman.

And more than that to recognise that the merit of accepting the dictates of the scientific method on the balance of things is the most desirable system we have as humans. A scientific theory is so much more than the term we use in everyday speak and it is perhaps best to think of scientific theory as meaning "a rock solid fact evidenced by repeatable tests and experiment that can only be overturned by a better theory which takes us further than the theory to be replaced whilst also explaining everything to greater satisfaction than the theory to be replaced"...and also to remember that one can destroy that theory if you can come up with something better.

Now I totally think the concept of dark matter is wrong however to offer a theory that establishes an alternative is for me impossible and so far for everyone else on the planet... sure you can have alternative ideas and what could seem reasonable critism but coming up with a better theory requires just more than a simple statement...you should take the time to read the Wiki entry re The Philosophy of Science and Karl Popper...I dont get too worried and hold the belief that the truth may evade humans and it may never be known to us.

As to getting together it will be a little way off as I still have not recovered sufficient to drive unfortunately.

And that 12 inch ..it seems the guy I offerred it to does not want it so in time I will arrange to get it to the fire shed so you can have it..the mirror needs redoing but even as is it is usable...
Alex
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Alex. Some of my inspiration
Comes while looking down the oculars, of either my Binoculars pointed at the SKy - or through my Microscope. ("All things, Great & Small)
Alex - your words, too inspire me.
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