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Old 05-08-2021, 03:01 PM
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M16 Eagle in OSC Narrowband SHO

Thought I’d give M16 another shot as conditions were good last night on the South Coast
NexDome Obs
4 hours of good data ( 3 min subs )
8”f5 GSO newt
EQ6-R mount
ZWOASI2600MC set in Ascom to Lowest Read Noise Gain 100 cooled to -10C
Goto and tracking EQMOD and Ascom Stellarium
PHD2 Multistar guiding 0.75 to 0.85 arc sec error total
Captured in APT
Stacked in DSS
Processed in Startools V1.7 Compose OSC Linear
Used one of the SHO presets in the colour matrix
Slight adjustments in saturation and colour bias

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Old 05-08-2021, 08:17 PM
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Your getting the feel for that camera M, and it shows.

Nice work

NB: Sculptor will be up in a few hours...
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Old 06-08-2021, 10:33 AM
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Peter,
Thanks , still experimenting with gain 0 ( HDR ) or gain 100 ( LRN ) on different exposure lengths for different objects but as far as cooling goes -10C is more than adequate , there’s no need to cool lower
Pleased with this result
Did some planetary imaging last night until midnight, and then took up your suggestion and imaged Sculptor galaxy until 3.30am
Need more data though
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Old 08-08-2021, 10:45 AM
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Nice image but curious as to the inverted framing choice?
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Old 08-08-2021, 11:52 AM
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Nice image but curious as to the inverted framing choice?
Thanks Andy
It’s just the way it came out of the stacker probably due to the majority of frames orientated that way after the meridian
I could have flipped it but decided to leave it to give an alternative perspective of the object
I kinda like it
Ive noticed some folk on IIS present M8 longitudinal North South maybe to squeeze it into their FOV or can’t be bothered rotating the camera , or processed it that way and didn’t rotate it , who knows ??
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Old 08-08-2021, 12:34 PM
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Nice work, Martin. You're really getting on top of a difficult target these past few attempts, great to see
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Old 08-08-2021, 01:15 PM
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Ive noticed some folk on IIS present M8 longitudinal North South maybe to squeeze it into their FOV or can’t be bothered rotating the camera , or processed it that way and didn’t rotate it , who knows ??
It's called convention orientation
No you're right. Framing is overrated. Where ever you look there are stars anyway.
Nice pic btw.
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Old 08-08-2021, 01:27 PM
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Thanks Andy
It’s just the way it came out of the stacker probably due to the majority of frames orientated that way after the meridian
I could have flipped it but decided to leave it to give an alternative perspective of the object
I kinda like it
Ive noticed some folk on IIS present M8 longitudinal North South maybe to squeeze it into their FOV or can’t be bothered rotating the camera , or processed it that way and didn’t rotate it , who knows ??
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Martin
Just remember that Composition is key to any image, be it Astrophotography, documentary, Landscape or Wedding/Portrait. Technical considerations follow suit after that.

Regardless of the subject matter, established conventions such as the rule of thirds, golden mean etc were all used the the great master painters of the renaissance and continue to this day. They do so for a good reason, it creates a balanced image that has initial impact & is pleasing to the eye.

That doesn't mean copying traditional M16 framing to match what everyone else does, but if you do choose to stray from convention, best consider doing so for reasons of creativity.
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Old 08-08-2021, 01:44 PM
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Just remember that Composition is key to any image, be it Astrophotography, documentary, Landscape or Wedding/Portrait. Technical considerations follow suit after that.

Regardless of the subject matter, established conventions such as the rule of thirds, golden mean etc were all used the the great master painters of the renaissance and continue to this day. They do so for a good reason, it creates a balanced image that has initial impact & is pleasing to the eye.

That doesn't mean copying traditional M16 framing to match what everyone else does, but if you do choose to stray from convention, best consider doing so for reasons of creativity.
Take your point Andy
Thanks
I come from an electrical engineering background , never picked up a decent camera until 5 years ago ( iPhone excluded ) let alone an Astrophotography camera so I lean towards the Science and Engineering of the hobby and not so much the Artistic or Creativity angle , but I know in this hobby they all go together
Thanks again
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Old 08-08-2021, 01:45 PM
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Nice work, Martin. You're really getting on top of a difficult target these past few attempts, great to see
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Thanks mate
Enjoying AP immensely now after 4 years of toil
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Old 08-08-2021, 01:46 PM
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It's called convention orientation
No you're right. Framing is overrated. Where ever you look there are stars anyway.
Nice pic btw.
Marc
Thanks very much too
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Old 08-08-2021, 02:39 PM
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It's very nice Martin agree with Andy could have done with orientation change great image
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Old 08-08-2021, 04:29 PM
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Superb image with great SHO detail. Keeps the background Nebulosity filaments using a subtle colour.
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It's very nice Martin agree with Andy could have done with orientation change great image
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Superb image with great SHO detail. Keeps the background Nebulosity filaments using a subtle colour.
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