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Old 07-08-2017, 09:20 AM
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Nice kit David, I too was blown away by the FSQ106ED as a visual scope, adding the extender 1.5xED gave superb views !!!.
Absolutely - NEVER listen to the old twats that tell you you don't use an imaging scope for visual "It's an astrograph - you can't look through it". Pure dribble.

It's a MAGNIFICENT visual view through an FSQ - flat to the edges, pin point stars, port-hole like views.
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Old 07-08-2017, 09:21 AM
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Made a few scope handles in the last week, here is one for Lewis for the old AP:

19.05 mm aluminium solid bar cut to 144mm then machined to 143mm & drilled and treaded for M8.
Glue grooves cut every 8mm,
Carbon fibre 20mm/22mm gloss tube epoxy glued over the aluminium,
M8x35mm S/S Button head socket screws
OK, I might make a drive around after school-o'clock yet Itching to get it on the A-P.
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Old 07-08-2017, 10:23 AM
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Absolutely - NEVER listen to the old twats that tell you you don't use an imaging scope for visual "It's an astrograph - you can't look through it". Pure dribble.
Unless of course said astrograph doesn't have enough back focus for even the shortest of 1.25" diagonals and an EP
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Old 07-08-2017, 11:02 AM
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Absolutely - NEVER listen to the old twats that tell you you don't use an imaging scope for visual "It's an astrograph - you can't look through it". Pure dribble.

It's a MAGNIFICENT visual view through an FSQ - flat to the edges, pin point stars, port-hole like views.
Well that isn't exactly what the old twats who know what they are talking about will tell you.

Petzval Refractors like the Tak FSQ106 and the Televue NP101 and several others, will all perform superbly as visual telescopes. I have used them both for visual, I know These are both unobstructed systems of very high quality.

Where it all falls apart for using imaging scopes for visual is with Newtonian astrographs with > 30% central obstructions and insufficient backfocus to reach focus with an eyepiece and with other imaging specific scopes like Ritchey Chretiens and the Planewaves with large CO's.

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Old 07-08-2017, 11:10 AM
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Well that isn't exactly what the old twats who know what they are talking about will tell you.

Petzval Refractors like the Tak FSQ106 and the Televue NP101 and several others, will all perform superbly as visual telescopes. I have used them both for visual, I know These are both unobstructed systems of very high quality.

Where it all falls apart for using imaging scopes for visual is with Newtonian astrographs with > 30% central obstructions and insufficient backfocus to reach focus with an eyepiece and with other imaging specific scopes like Ritchey Chretiens and the Planewaves with large CO's.

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That is the problem - the urban myth goes wild, without the caveats attached - a true Chinese Whisper.

I was still staunchly told by 3 guys on Cloudy Nights that an FSQ cannot be a good visual instrument because it's an astrograph. You just grin and smile.
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Old 07-08-2017, 11:13 AM
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Unless of course said astrograph doesn't have enough back focus for even the shortest of 1.25" diagonals and an EP
I used each and every FSQ 85 and 106 I have owned for visual without a hitch. Just use the Tak 1.25" diagonal and where needed the "In" adaptor, and all good to go.
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Old 07-08-2017, 11:15 AM
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Unless of course said astrograph doesn't have enough back focus for even the shortest of 1.25" diagonals and an EP
Now let's see if a certain red and black Italian light bucket will come to focus for visual Good luck with it
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Old 07-08-2017, 11:32 AM
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Now let's see if a certain red and black Italian light bucket will come to focus for visual Good luck with it
I'm sure that with a helical focuser I could straight through visual but it would be mighty uncomfortable without a variabale height observing bed

Still waiting on one adapter and then I'll be good to go!
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Old 07-08-2017, 12:17 PM
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Mewlon-210 sitting on my EQ6. Didn't get much time (AGAIN!) before the clouds rolled in but long enough to get a quite nicely centred secondary shadow. Collimation is now good enough to split a double, now just need some half decent seeing to actually be able to see something that resembles a diffraction ring.
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Old 14-08-2017, 06:05 AM
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I think you will enjoy the views through the M210 when the curse clears... but your Polar Alignment was off by 90º so I fixed that for you...
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We need to send Colin a cradle or at least some velcro - look at the hand controller just hanging there...tsk tsk tsk
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I think you will enjoy the views through the M210 when the curse clears... but your Polar Alignment was off by 90º so I fixed that for you...
That explains why I was struggling with collimation, I was pointed at the ground!

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We need to send Colin a cradle or at least some velcro - look at the hand controller just hanging there...tsk tsk tsk
It was in a perfect place, kneeling and viewing near zenith I could just reach down to recently the out of focus star
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Fsq 85 grab and go

Fsq 85edx for travel and grab and go.
Just for visual at this stage. The baby q is mounted on a manfrotto fluid video head (1.6kg) rated to 7kg and gitzo carbon fibre tripod (3kg) and rated to a whopping 40kg load. Really light weight comes in under 8 kg total + eyepiece.
I removed the CAA ring to give plenty of in focus ranging from a Tak Le 5 - nagler 31 = sweet views
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my budget(ish) setup from this years astrofest
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Nice , I had one of those 127mm triplets and it was a good one .
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Smile Newbie Gear and first images.

My gear, just a newbie but loving the learning!
TS-PL-80mm-F6-Triplet, Sony A99 24MPix 5.97 microns, 50mm Orion guidescope Prostar Guidecam Sony IMX224LQR, 3.75microns. HEQ5-Pro, QHY Polemaster, ASCOM, EQMOD, PHD2, Cartes-Du-Ciel running on my HP Spectre I7 Ultrabook.

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My gear, just a newbie but loving the learning!
TS-PL-80mm-F6-Triplet, Sony A99 24MPix 5.97 microns, 50mm Orion guidescope Prostar Guidecam Sony IMX224LQR, 3.75microns. HEQ5-Pro, QHY Polemaster, ASCOM, EQMOD, PHD2, Cartes-Du-Ciel running on my HP Spectre I7 Ultrabook.

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TEC MC200 F15.5 with supercharged Zeiss binoviewers and acting as a counterweight, Takahashi TSA120 F7.5 with TV Binovues, both fitted with Takahashi Abbe eyepieces.....
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