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Old 22-10-2021, 02:57 PM
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The best invention ever - running fresh water and a sewage system.

Without it humanity would be stuck somewhere before the bronze age.
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Language; most inventions since have needed this prerequisite.


But in my lifetime:- The Internet.
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Old 23-10-2021, 12:38 PM
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Writing comes to mind as without writing where would we be?
Who invented writing? Does anyone know? Probably not as this civilization is ignored it seems.

But it was the Sumerians.

Why are they ignored in education?

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Old 23-10-2021, 03:13 PM
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But it was the Sumerians.

Why are they ignored in education?

Alex
A lot of education on history revolves around the unspoken assumption that it is the history of 'us' - where *we come from that is interesting. Unless you're doing comparative anthropology, early Chinese, Middle Eastern, African etc cultures are largely ignored. What we call the 'dark ages' really only applies to western europe.

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Old 23-10-2021, 03:50 PM
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Back in the day looting a library was the same as a bank for some...

Look at all the stuff we call Roman, they stole it from the Greeks...

I'd say you lost ownership of the knowledge much the same way you lost ownership of the gold. Once they had it, it was called "theirs"...
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Old 23-10-2021, 04:26 PM
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Back in the day looting a library was the same as a bank for some...

Look at all the stuff we call Roman, they stole it from the Greeks...

I'd say you lost ownership of the knowledge much the same way you lost ownership of the gold. Once they had it, it was called "theirs"...
It all started with the Sumarians

One thing I picked up on reading history is something of significance that was on the table if a peace was being negotiated was who got to have the churches, or so I believe, why? Well I expect they were cash cows back then unlike these days...10 % of your income plus other special collections...and how convenient and managable .once a week every week plus special holy days...
The Sumarians had Adam and the garden, the flood plus lots of other stuff found in later religious texts...I sometimes feel they are not put up for education as current religions would not be found to be original.

AND History...thats what I am talking about and not religion...you cant utter a word in history without touching on religion..it is central to our development really... And who invented history.. we learn so much from seeing how civilization after civilization rises and disappears ... When will it happen to us?
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Old 23-10-2021, 04:30 PM
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They say the best thing about winning a war, is you get to write the history...


As for history I think the late Terry Pratchett summed it very well...

“History isn't like that. History unravels gently, like an old sweater. It has been patched and darned many times, reknitted to suit different people, shoved in a box under the sink of censorship to be cut up for the dusters of propaganda, yet it always - eventually - manages to spring back into its old familar shape. History has a habit of changing the people who think they are changing it. History always has a few tricks up its frayed sleeve. It's been around a long time
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They say the best thing about winning a war, is you get to write the history...


As for history I think the late Terry Pratchett summed it very well...

“History isn't like that. History unravels gently, like an old sweater. It has been patched and darned many times, reknitted to suit different people, shoved in a box under the sink of censorship to be cut up for the dusters of propaganda, yet it always - eventually - manages to spring back into its old familar shape. History has a habit of changing the people who think they are changing it. History always has a few tricks up its frayed sleeve. It's been around a long time
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