Reverse discrimination.

[Peter Ward]

Originally Posted by avandonk

..... Stupid males killed each other to prove even minor points of dissagreement.

I wish you all luck if you still feel this way.


Bert

Oh come now Bert....how many troops did Maggie Thatcher send off the the Faulklands or Golda Meir into Palestine. I suspect this is a human rather than gender specific failing. I was going to add Helen Clark to the list...but I suspect the Kiwi's haven't realised she's a bloke.

[Screwdriverone (Chris)]

Originally Posted by sheeny

(Why do you want to be a woman Stan?)

Al.

I want to have babies......

I agree with the basic sentiment of reversal of cultural sex stereotypes,

I would just like to point out my observations of a few (if not all) (strong, feminist type) women I know who met their rebellious, strong willed macho boyfriends, fell in love, got married, then proceeded to scream, complain and moan about EVERY thing they do and change EVERY thing their Men stood for, believed in, enjoyed in life and all the things that basically made them who they were in the first place, until they are a broken down wimpy husk of a man who doesnt know how to make an important decision as simple as where to go on holidays without "checking in with the missus first" because if they do...."GOD" help them because they will get the finger swinging "How DARE you NOT consult me" speech with all the African American Bootylicious alpha female tyrade that comes with it followed by the ubiquitus "you go GIRL!" from all her friends when she moans about it to them afterwards.

And THEN they have the gall to state: " You are NOT the man I fell in love with!"

There is your problem!

I am not bitter.......MUCH.

Cheers

Chris

[Lee]

Originally Posted by space oddity

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Criminals, the very ones who do not follow the rules, seem to be given the most rights. The cops have to tread lightly when dealing with them. Contrast this with the crap many of us regular(straight, white, working) get when we get pulled over on some minor traffic infringement.
......
Those that work the hardest and pay the most taxes are given the least back in welfare state entitlements. The bludgers, who refuse to contribute to society to earn their privelidges, are regarded as underprivledged and given more and more of the pie.
.....

Good points - the criminals/police --- more the fault of lawyers, who will nitpick what the police do to the n'th degree to try and free their scumbag on a technicality. The other problem is our lameduck judges (more lawyers) who listen to them.

I just thought the second quote needed repeating!

[bojan]

Originally Posted by Peter Ward

Oh come now Bert....how many troops did Maggie Thatcher send off the the Faulklands or Golda Meir into Palestine. I suspect this is a human rather than gender specific failing. I was going to add Helen Clark to the list...but I suspect the Kiwi's haven't realised she's a bloke.

Those are just drops in the ocean..
It is notorious fact that a woman has to be twice as good as a man to be regarded as equal and be successful... your examples are extreme: all of those ladies were exceptional in their abilities and personalities (this statement does not mean I admire them for what they represent and policies they were implementing.. but I do admire them for what they achieved as strong leaders..).

[jjjnettie (Jeanette)]

Originally Posted by Screwdriverone

I would just like to point out my observations of a few (if not all) (strong, feminist type) women I know who met their rebellious, strong willed macho boyfriends, fell in love, got married, then proceeded to scream, complain and moan about EVERY thing they do and change EVERY thing their Men stood for, believed in, enjoyed in life and all the things that basically made them who they were in the first place, until they are a broken down wimpy husk of a man who doesnt know how to make an important decision as simple as where to go on holidays without "checking in with the missus first" because if they do...."GOD" help them because they will get the finger swinging "How DARE you NOT consult me" speech with all the African American Bootylicious alpha female tyrade that comes with it followed by the ubiquitus "you go GIRL!" from all her friends when she moans about it to them afterwards.

And THEN they have the gall to state: " You are NOT the man I fell in love with!"

There is your problem!

I am not bitter.......MUCH.

Cheers

Chris

She's no feminist, she's just a loud mouthed, controlling so and so who just wants her own way all the time.
Her attitude towards marriage is wrong.
"Aisle.....Alter.....Hymn"
As for having to ask permission to go out....wrong.
Consulting to make sure there are no other plans.... sure.
Big difference.
Her friends....when the marriage finally breaks up, are the ones that encourage her to strip him of all his assets, "Go for it girl, you can get half his tools too, what about his cd collection??"
I've seen it.
I don't blame some men for being bitter.

[marc4darkskies (Marcus)]

Originally Posted by Peter Ward

Is it just me? Or is anyone else growing weary of Advertiser's, Hollywood's, TV & the Media's and even the education system's treatment of us mere males....

Originally Posted by jjjnettie

...Her friends....when the marriage finally breaks up, are the ones that encourage her to strip him of all his assets, "Go for it girl, you can get half his tools too, what about his cd collection??"
I've seen it.

I've seen it too - first hand. I don't care about comedic anti-male jibes on TV or in the movies. Just like when I can't find my keys when there sitting on the table in front of me ... because of my man-vision!! It doesn't bother me, and it certainly doesn't count as discrimination IMO - it just makes me laugh.

You want discrimination? This is what my lawyer said when I first consulted him for my divorce procedings back in 1992 (after her infidelity). " ... I wish you were the woman ... then I'd have some good news for you!! ...". She ended up with 65% of the net assets of the marriage! And don't get me started on the Child Support Agency!!

Cheers, Marcus

PS Happily (re)married now for 13 years

[fringe_dweller]

thats right JJ, a controlling personality isnt exclusive to either gender, thats a human trait, makes me sad to almost daily read about males murdering their children and spouses, and its about control! dont hear about the other way around quite so much?

now back to my beef - soap opera's and most teen movies/shows ect. all thru history have portrayed adults generally as bumbling clueless buffoons - enuff already!

[Paul Haese]

I only read the first two pages but you guys need to toughen up. These ads are designed to get your attention. Clearly that has happened. The trollop ads after midnight are so bad that the ads where men are portrayed as idiots just pale into insignificance. I hate both ads but I realise that the really bad ads are the ones that seek to elicit money from young men via phone bills while using women as sex objects, because women are seen as possessions. So what if men are portrayed as idiots. Most of them are really anyway. Drive like maniacs, fight each other over women or possession of them or do any other act of stupidity. So time for you dweebie lot to toughen up and accept the fact that women still have it a lot worse than we ever have and we can laugh about some woman standing over us with a leash around our necks. It could not be further from the truth. Flamming sooks.