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29-05-2011, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Bassnut
I know about this, it's trivial, don't care ,doesn't answer my question
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+1 and its 3 years old.
Dont know which side of the fence I will be perceived at with this comment, but dont care.
Proper current info would help towards a non biased opinion. Propaganda from either party should always be taken into account.
I dont like anybody grandstanding their point of view on tv( or any media for that matter), and as such, in my opinion, any documentary/reports/etc should be taken with a grain of salt.
Bartman
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29-05-2011, 10:39 PM
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ze frogginator
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Originally Posted by toc
And if it was true, what is your solution?
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Get their a$$ in gear working then give the money to the oldies who need it.
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30-05-2011, 01:16 AM
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Buddhist Astronomer
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This is what these type of shock jocks love turning mates against mates if we are all fighting because of what they say they just get more important. Don't let them turn you against each other united we stand devided we fall  . Then they sit back and egg us on and rake in the dollars they can't be successful without getting us to argue with each other
Last edited by supernova1965; 30-05-2011 at 07:55 AM.
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30-05-2011, 07:48 AM
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Highest Observatory in Oz
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Originally Posted by Omaroo
There's no tip-toeing around the fact that some of us here have first-person connections with the current government, so it's very difficult for them to post a comment like this and it not be taken as motivated by something other than a mere dislike of the "presentation".
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I made no political refference at all Chris just pointed out the obvious pathetic , biased and uncredible format of the Bolt Report, that was all  ...Marc however did make it political so why haven't you addressed that? (naughty Marc  ).
There is no tip toing around the fact that some of us here are WAAAAY too serious
Mike
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30-05-2011, 08:01 AM
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Let there be night...
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Originally Posted by strongmanmike
There is no tip toing around the fact that some of us here are WAAAAY too serious
Mike
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Oh please. Who posted in the first place and with what intention? No political reference? What utter nonsense. Yes we're serious - and you're not? Come on Mike - you keep doing this and then when it gets heated (by design) you dismiss us and opt out with just another Sidonio roll-the-eyes "joke"? Come up with something better and stop politicising if you don't want to get it back Mike. Pretty simple eh?
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30-05-2011, 08:09 AM
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Highest Observatory in Oz
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Originally Posted by Omaroo
Oh please. Who posted in the first place? No political reference? What utter crap. Yes we're serious - and you're not? Come on Mike - you keep doing this - just another Sidonio "joke"? Come up with something better and stop politicising if you don't want to get it back. Pretty simple eh?
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No need to make it personal Chris  , missinterpretion of posts is not my fault  ...I honestly mean no harm, it is 100% you that have politicised this, sorry.
Mike
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30-05-2011, 08:11 AM
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Let there be night...
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Oh dear. LOL I'm out of here. I'm not going to lose my IIS membership because of you. See you in Brisbane, we'll have a beer.
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30-05-2011, 08:21 AM
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Highest Observatory in Oz
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Originally Posted by Omaroo
Oh dear. LOL I'm out of here. I'm not going to lose my IIS membership because of you. See you in Brisbane, we'll have a beer.
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...because of me???
Man the beer sounds good, I think we may have some missunderstandings to sort out
Mike
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30-05-2011, 09:18 AM
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Chris - I think your accusation that Mike made a political comment is a red herring on your part. . I didn't see anything political about Mikes original post. He questioned the guys credentials and style. You made the thing political by attacking Mike because he knocked a guy who's politics you clearly align with. Its as simple as that.
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30-05-2011, 09:19 AM
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A Lazy Astronomer
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Polictical commentary on TV or radio is no better than the 'shock jocks' on radio. It is not there for our benefit, it is there because the media moguls hope to capture share.
Lets be realistic here. These shows cost a lot of money to make and air and if they can't make a profit then they are canned. If the producers (remember it is not the presenter) want the show to succeed then they will adpot whatever approach/subject/view they think will increase their share!
Cheers
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30-05-2011, 09:30 AM
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Let there be night...
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Originally Posted by Satchmo
Chris - I think your accusation that Mike made a political comment is a red herring on your part.
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I've deleted by original reply to you Mark because it isn't going to change anything - think what you like. All I'll say is that for anyone to state that that there was no political motivation behind the original post, and that no-one should or could assume that it did have is, at best, naive. Of course there was.
We're in a seriously silly loop. These subjects go nowhere. No wonder they are discouraged in this forum and I agree with that sentiment - as expressed in my initial reply. Given that, why are people allowed to test the water from time to time, full-knowing the probable if not obvious outcome? Hmmm.. now that's not too hard.
Last edited by Omaroo; 30-05-2011 at 10:11 AM.
Reason: No - I've deleted by reply because it isn't going to change anything.
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30-05-2011, 09:52 AM
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the fact of the matter is regardless of if you agree with Bolt or not he has his own show and it speaks to many people with a political persuasion which for all intent and purposes we shall say is to the right. Personally i have no problem with the show because at least it is animating people to act and become involved in the political discourse of our nation which can only be a good thing. If you don't agree with Bolt don't watch it simple as that ... the is Q&A on the ABC which i know a few people think is probably more left leaning then center or impassive (and lets be real here it is the ABC) then it claims to be (listen to the audience sometime when a Liberal party supporter speaks and compare to when a Green party supporter speaks haha) I am not saying that a TV show should be impassive it shouldn't particularly when that show goes out and says i am going to support this point of view ... its not a news program after all and doesn't pretend to be, its a commentary show.
As for global warming there are legitimate doubts about the actual effects that humanity is playing withing the scientific community, no doubt we are defiantly having at least a minor effect but if it is on the scale of planetary effects is still up in the air (after all 70% of greenhouse warming is caused by water vapor). The more important fact that many over look is that humanity is affecting the ocean with its carbon output within 100years the acidification caused by our sudden large release of Carbon will have made the top 300m of ocean too acidic for most forms of Crustaceans and mollusc's to form shells thus wiping them out and destroying global food chains that support ocean biodiversity and about 1.5billion human lives ... who cares about global warming when this is going to happen ... not might but will, unless we can remove carbon directly from the atmosphere.
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30-05-2011, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by stanlite
the fact of the matter is regardless of if you agree with Bolt or not he has his own show and it speaks to many people with a political persuasion which for all intent and purposes we shall say is to the right. Personally i have no problem with the show because at least it is animating people to act and become involved in the political discourse of our nation which can only be a good thing. If you don't agree with Bolt don't watch it simple as that ... the is Q&A on the ABC which i know a few people think is probably more left leaning then center or impassive (and lets be real here it is the ABC) then it claims to be (listen to the audience sometime when a Liberal party supporter speaks and compare to when a Green party supporter speaks haha) I am not saying that a TV show should be impassive it shouldn't particularly when that show goes out and says i am going to support this point of view ... its not a news program after all and doesn't pretend to be, its a commentary show.
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  ... any comparison between the Bolt Report and ABC's Q&A is absolutely preposterous, the two shows are in completely different leagues.
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30-05-2011, 10:35 AM
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time for some time out in the naughty corner - off you all go - thread closed
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