U got your $900 from the Govt yet? - Page 3

DJDD · #41 22-04-2009, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Omaroo

No, not so. If you earn more than a hundred k you won't see a red cent.

$900 bonus to taxpayers with taxable income that is up to $80,000.
$600 bonus to taxpayers with taxable income that is between $80,001 and $90,000.
$250 bonus to taxpayers with taxable income that is between $90,001 and $100,000.

maybe I am too much of a socialist (read "yoghurt throwing commy") but this does not seem too unreasonable...

(regardless of whether I think the bonus is a good idea or not... <-- trying to keep this apolitical)

Barrykgerdes · #42 22-04-2009, 01:35 PM

I got mine today. Everyone said I would not get it because I already got all my tax back. I will "laugh all the way to the bank"

Barry

Omaroo (Chris Malikoff) · #43 22-04-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DJDD

maybe I am too much of a socialist (read "yoghurt throwing commy") but this does not seem too unreasonable...

(regardless of whether I think the bonus is a good idea or not... <-- trying to keep this apolitical)

What actually makes you think that $100k is a lot of money in this day and age?

Rokketboy (Jared) · #44 22-04-2009, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Omaroo

What actually makes you think that $100k is a lot of money in this day and age?

It's alot if you only earn $40K lol. like me

starlooker (Duc) · #45 22-04-2009, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Omaroo

What actually makes you think that $100k is a lot of money in this day and age?

"the average wage now $57,324"

"The average pay packet might be $57,000, but very few people are actually earning that. it is skewed because of the massive pay packets of the upper end of the scale which hide the fact that most people are earning between $35,000 to $40,000."

http://www.news.com.au/business/stor...90-462,00.html

pgc hunter · #46 22-04-2009, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Omaroo

What actually makes you think that $100k is a lot of money in this day and age?

more than what the vast majority of people earn

Omaroo (Chris Malikoff) · #47 22-04-2009, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pgc hunter

more than what the vast majority of people earn

So everyone should earn the same money? Should they also pay the same tax? I guess it depends on what industry you've chosen to be in. I have kids straight out of arts college asking me for $80-90k when I interview them for work, and some even get it in the larger firms. They're 20-25. A few of them even have talent. In my sector, pay isn't determined on what level you've reached, whether you're worth 10 bucks an hour more than the next guy or how long you've worked for the company - it's paid for skill and your ability to earn the company revenue. Simple. As far as the big cats go, i.e. those on multi-million dollar payouts - I think it's frankly insane, and the Pacific Brands incident of late showcases this abuse. $100K? It's not a ridiculous sum - when you work 18 hour days and are on 24-hour call it's just average money. People've worked damn hard, damn long and very smartly to earn that pay - and I'm not sure that anyone can rightfully begrudge them - or even think that it's all a bit unfair...

AlexN · #48 22-04-2009, 04:41 PM

My sister is earning around 85k a year doing accounting... im on roughly the same money as an industrial metal worker who is not afraid of long shifts or overtime.. Its as simple as that... you want to earn more money, you need to do one of the following.

- Work Smarter
- Work Harder
- Work Longer
- All of the Above.

If you want to have a cry that someone earns more money than you, rather than thinking its not fair etc, perhaps, try "what can I do to earn money like that?"

The world owes nobody anything. You want something? Go Get It!

Rokketboy (Jared) · #49 22-04-2009, 04:51 PM

I don't think anyone was saying everyone should earn the same money. You asked a question and a few of us answered

I knew the industry I was getting into (horticulture) was rubbish as far as wages went. Among my close group of friends (4-5 guys), I am the only non-I.T guy, and the only one earning less than $80K.
I am also the only one that works 35 hour weeks and who is not contactable outside of work hours. My mates all work a ridiculous number of hours (100 hour weeks not uncommon) and seem to sometimes be permanently attached to their mobile at all hours.
I made the choice to not get into that sort of thing. I have no problem with people earning more than me. Good for them.
I do believe that the difference in wages between industries is over-the-top in alot of cases. In my case, I went straight from my HSC, did a 3 year Horticulture Associate Diploma or Cert 4 (not sure what it would be classed as now) and now have 15 years experience in a few different areas within the industry , plus several qualifications (chemcert, LL licence etc) and at best I could earn maybe $45-50K.
I have 2 mates who had no formal training in I.T, got a start in a local company and started at $45K. That's were I find the inequality a bit disheartening and unfair, but hey, thats not their problem. I knew what the industry was like when I got into it.

"The world owes nobody anything. You want something? Go Get It! "
Very, very true.

GeoffW1 (Geoff) · #50 22-04-2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by alan meehan

still haven,t got mine or the misses yet ,ours is going to my misses for a new set of teeth they cost a small fortune and thats buying australian

Everyone should be able to have teeth. You can tell her this...

"Your teeth are like the stars," he said
As he pressed her hand, so white
He spoke the truth, for, like the stars
Her teeth came out at night

I spent $3500 on my front teeth, and gave the dentist heaps about the cost of it each visit. It got so she groaned every time she saw me, and was offering discounts unasked. However I know that is cheap!!

Cheers

spacezebra (Petra) · #51 22-04-2009, 06:44 PM

The $900 arrived today

.

Cheers Petra d.

GrahamL · #52 22-04-2009, 06:47 PM

Don't sweat it to much Jared.. hearses don't seem to have luggage racks from what I've seen .. and If your wondering what your worth will be after 25 years playing in the dirt .. from my experiance exactly the same as now .. though you will still sleep well at nights.. not work long hours
be able to switch your mobile off when you go home ..
( I still don't have one )...Despite no money deep down theres something likeable about getting your hands dirty through a working day

No Ruddy money here yet

.. what a hoot though.. govt is going to give you some loot rather than take it .

Starkler (Geoff) · #53 22-04-2009, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Omaroo

People've worked damn hard, damn long and very smartly to earn that pay - and I'm not sure that anyone can rightfully begrudge them - or even think that it's all a bit unfair...

I don't begrudge anyone their pay. I do however roll my eyes and groan when the highly paid have a whinge about paying their proscribed taxes and missing out on middle-class welfare.

No matter how much tax you pay, you're still better off than those who are paid less than you.

As for me, as a single without dependants earning around average income, this is the first time in my 20 odd years working that I ever got ANYTHING from the government! Sandwich and milkshake sized tax cuts dont count.

Omaroo (Chris Malikoff) · #54 22-04-2009, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Starkler

I don't begrudge anyone their pay. I do however roll my eyes and groan when the highly paid have a whinge about paying their proscribed taxes

Right with you there Geoff - even more so for those that earn monies WELL above the highest tax bracket cutoff, rather than those just over it.

DJDD · #55 22-04-2009, 10:34 PM

back on topic:
I keep checking the mail for the cheque but no luck so far...

Cannot wait, though. hopefully it comes before this weekend.
I think i have decided on a new pair of jeans and the QHY5/starshoot autoguider.

My wife is not keen on my getting a motorbike helmet.

Still, would like to know if buying Australian is better or worse whilst in the current financial crisis.

Off-topic bits below, read if you want.

Trying to keep it apolitical...

My point was never that 100k was a lot of money (or not) or that everyone should earn the same amount of money or pay the same amount of taxes (I am a supporter of proportional taxes), OR that i begrudge anyone earning more money than the next person.

My understanding of the bonus is that it is designed to get/keep people spending money and:
- the likelihood of someone on 100k having discretionary funds is higher than for someone on, say 60k
- there is a fair chance that someone on 100k will probably spend their "own" money whereas people on lower incomes may hold onto their money, hence the need for a bonus
- they are thresholds and so someone is always going to be unhappy. I am sorry that it hits anyone in the Astro community; we need to help keep the astro stores in business.

of course:
- this is not suggesting the bonus is a good idea (or not)
- i am from a DINK household, in IT with a scientist for a wife, and I broadly support the thresholds (that's the yoghurt throwing commy bit). BUT would welcome the cheque.

goober (Doug) · #56 23-04-2009, 08:26 AM

Got mine a week ago. Buy Australian huh... maybe a long billed Corella, or a red tailed black cockatoo... squawk!

TrevorW · #57 23-04-2009, 11:34 AM

Actually if you want to earn more money become a State Sector public servant

- Suck up to the boss work dumber be promoted
- Work shorter hours
- Have Longer holidays, stress leave, flexi time (earned by coming in early or going hone later not actually working)
- All of the Above.

I recently joined the state public service after 30 odd years in private enterprise and I thought why did'nt I think to do this sooner. If you can play the game and tolerate the BS and politics I'd be on over $100k a year by now and into my second holiday home, third long service and thinking about retirement. Long service after 7 years. Gold Super Fund floating over $500000 by now.

As it is I'm down the levels, less stress, less BS, less politics but still near $60k a year.

Rokketboy (Jared) · #58 23-04-2009, 05:31 PM

I got some interesting info today regarding how the payments are being distributed. Apparently its being rolled out via the postcodes of the recipients. From what I heard they are up to 2280 here in NSW. Im 2289 so I should be getting mine in the next week or so. WOOT!
We shall see if my informant was correct. If she lied , she will be punished

Jen · #59 23-04-2009, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rokketboy

I got some interesting info today regarding how the payments are being distributed. Apparently its being rolled out via the postcodes of the recipients. From what I heard they are up to 2280 here in NSW. Im 2289 so I should be getting mine in the next week or so. WOOT!
We shall see if my informant was correct. If she lied , she will be punished

there goes that theory i got mine two weeks ago and my post code is 3585

Rokketboy (Jared) · #60 23-04-2009, 05:33 PM

Yeah but you are in VIC, Jen. Its by state apparently