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Old 19-04-2007, 06:02 PM
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If this guy was only after publicity, don't you think it's peculiar that he's not around to enjoy 'what he wanted'?
Not at all , he has made it into history , as others in this country have, for all the wrong reasons..

BTW a weapon / gun has never hurt anyone ........
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Old 19-04-2007, 06:06 PM
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The point I was trying to make was that if these people are simply narcissists looking to gain their 15 minutes of fame through the media, the cruel twist is that their narcissism can hardly be sated if they're dead and not around to enjoy their 'handiwork'.

Just an observation.

I don't believe this guy carried out this attrocity simply because he was certain there was a waiting media ready to immortalise him.

That's too simplistic and naive.

There was a whole lot going on inside this individual's head other than the chance to have a Big Brother moment in the sun.

Just my opinion
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Old 19-04-2007, 08:36 PM
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G'Day,
IMHO it can all be sumed up in one word "Money"!! until all the resources of this Universe can be equally divided among all it's people and environment, we will still have this sort of thing happening,it's just a matter of the "haves having to much" and the "have not's having much less".Wars are not started by people who want to bring democracy to another country and it's people,it's about "wealth" and wanting more of it.Until we all get a fair suck of the sausage there will never be peace.
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Old 19-04-2007, 09:00 PM
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Think you make a very fair point, Arthur.

I think for some people the imbalances and unfairness of life can build to such a point that human emotions just explode.

Some people just get to a point, I guess, where all the injustices they feel that have been visited upon them just become overwhelming and consuming.

For them perhaps the only way out is .... out
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Old 19-04-2007, 09:14 PM
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That's Why I Believe In Skywatching ......it's So Peaceful!!
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Old 19-04-2007, 09:32 PM
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All I can offer is my deepest condolences to the families, loved ones, students and community members affected by this awful, senseless tragedy. I cannot even begin to imagine what they must have gone through, or will suffer, upon hearing this most terrible news about the loss of their loved ones.

It seems the most loving and kindest thing we can do, is to offer them our love, prayers and kind thoughts in what surely must be their darkest moment.

May they find some comfort in the collective love and prayers directed at them.

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Old 19-04-2007, 09:44 PM
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A Song to make you think

A friend from the US sent this to me the other day just after the news of the shootings. Hope its not too long for a post Steve and Mike

If It Were Up to Me
Words and Lyrics by: Cheryl Wheeler

Maybe it's the movies, maybe it's the books
Maybe it's the bullets, maybe it's the real crooks
Maybe it's the drugs, maybe it's the parents
Maybe it's the colours everybody's wearin
Maybe it's the President, maybe it's the last one
Maybe it's the one before that, what he done
Maybe it's the high schools, maybe it's the teachers
Maybe it's the tattooed children in the bleachers
Maybe it's the Bible, maybe it's the lack
Maybe it's the music, maybe it's the crack
Maybe it's the hairdos, maybe it's the TV
Maybe it's the cigarettes, maybe it's the family
Maybe it's the fast food, maybe it's the news
Maybe it's divorce, maybe it's abuse
Maybe it's the lawyers, maybe it's the prisons
Maybe it's the Senators, maybe it's the system
Maybe it's the fathers, maybe it's the sons
Maybe it's the sisters, maybe it's the moms
Maybe it's the radio, maybe it's road rage
Maybe El Nino, or UV rays
Maybe it's the army, maybe it's the liquor
Maybe it's the papers, maybe the militia
Maybe it's the athletes, maybe it's the ads
Maybe it's the sports fans, maybe it's a fad
Maybe it's the magazines, maybe it's the internet
Maybe it's the lottery, maybe it's the immigrants
Maybe it's taxes, big business
Maybe it's the KKK and the skinheads
Maybe it's the communists, maybe it's the Catholics
Maybe it's the hippies, maybe it's the addicts
Maybe it's the art, maybe it's the sex
Maybe it's the homeless, maybe it's the banks
Maybe it's the clearcut, maybe it's the ozone
Maybe it's the chemicals, maybe it's the car phones
Maybe it's the fertilizer, maybe it's the nose rings
Maybe it's the end, but I know one thing.
If it were up to me, I'd take away the guns.

(P) October 1, 1997; Penrod And Higgins Music / Amachrist Music ACF Music Group International Copyright Reserved
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Old 24-04-2007, 12:27 PM
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I read in the paper the other day that the Australian Gun Buy Back saves up to 280 lives each year. That has to be a good enough reason to keep guns off the streets.
Growing up in Belfast Northern Ireland I have seen first hand the destruction guns can do to human beings. Victims and their families. I for one will never use a gun or allow any of my children to use one either. My heart goes out to all the relatives in this tragedy.

I do think the kid involved wanted a lot of publicity because he sent his home made video to a news channel. That was reason in itself never to play the thing on air. The news media love this kind of thing and it makes me ashamed to be a human being seeing others gloat and glorifying over something that to me makes me sick to my stomach. No sooner had people heard about the murder of their loved ones, they had to put up with seeing the rantings of their murderer all over the media. I know, I know, the freedom of the press and all that. Somewhere somehow there has to be a line drawn and never be allowed to cross. The tragedy has to be reported I'm not saying it shouldn't, but the home video's of these deranged killers should be for the authorities only, not the general public.

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Old 24-04-2007, 12:56 PM
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Growing up in Belfast Northern Ireland I have seen first hand the destruction guns can do to human beings. Victims and their families. I for one will never use a gun or allow any of my children to use one either. My heart goes out to all the relatives in this tragedy.
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G'Day Gazz,
I was born in Belfast also, so I know what you mean,as a former member of "Oglaigha na hEireann" I have seen seen the carnage,mental and physical that is caused by guns.
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Old 24-04-2007, 01:15 PM
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I can't believe the answer to this issue from the NRA and others, was that every person on campus (and what about postal workers?) should be packin a piece for defence purposes - and their deadly serious OMG! I cant get over how powerful the gun lobby is in the US - freakin weird!
As said before, handguns and automatics of all descriptions are for one purpose only - keepin the squirrels in check
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Old 24-04-2007, 01:28 PM
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If that's not news, what is it
If they don't report it, then they are pushing the problem under the carpet, and after all we cannot expect the media to report only happy stuff.
or as they say in the business: good news doesnt sell... its not about reporting news, its about selling it.
$$$

i'd love to turn to the news and see something other than death and destruction or pollitics but it isnt gunna happen.
I am 100% sure that more good things happen in this world than bad.

the media has alot to answer for...
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