Hi Leon,
Yes you are quite correct.
I know of some people who do believe that the powers that be have made the sun shine an extra hour.
When Daylight Saving started in S.A. people complained with ridiculous reasons.
One I remember: The extra sunlight is causing the paint to peel on the back wall.
And a joke:
The Old Indian's comment on daylight savings , "Only the government would believe that you could cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it to the bottom, and have a longer blanket."
I can remember housewives complaining that their curtains would fade quicker due to the extra hour per day of sun! That was back in the early 70's or late 60's or whenever it was when we got DST in Sydney.
There are still people who still believe that DST creates an extra hour of sunshine!
Some people are that stupid.
Some of the farmers around here still think DST is stupid because it mucks up their cows milking cycles, their paddocks are drying out, and the daytime work hours are longer!
But yes, there are still some people that stupid!
Same here in WA. Hence the rejection of DLS in the referendums. Lots of country people and people who live close to the coast rejected it.
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Originally Posted by ballaratdragons
I can remember housewives complaining that their curtains would fade quicker due to the extra hour per day of sun! That was back in the early 70's or late 60's or whenever it was when we got DST in Sydney.
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Originally Posted by leon
Yep Ken, I have heard that exact comment.
Leon
I'm sure I've heard those comments more recent!
But to get back to the OP, yes its trolling......I agree with the comments made supporting this.
Bartman
Oh gawd....Someone shoot this moron before it breeds... To late!, now that I think about it. I've met many similarly synaptically challenged individuals in recent times... They come out mainly when daylight savings begins and there is an extra hour of daylight to warm their brain cell.
Some of the farmers around here still think DST is stupid because it mucks up their cows milking cycles
Actually, there is a logic to this... let me explain.
Commercial farms that have milking cows are on a "tight" time schedule with respect to when the receiving trucks arrive to accept a load of milk at a dairy.
Because it is humans who are the dominant species and we have invented the concept of time (in the cognitive sense, not with respect to the universe)... the truck arrives everyday at *exactly* the same time (say 4am). A problem arises when DST is in effect. The cows are now milked an hour out of their normal routine, thus disrupting the milking cycle. This would not be a problem if the truck schedule were independent from DST and always used say UTC, but this would require the people working for the company to shift their entire day by one hour. Since we are the dominant species on the planet and control what we want to control, we allow the workers to clock-in at the same "chronological" time everyday.
So, humans are happy, but the cows are not. This is why you hear the argument that the it disrupts the cows milking cycle. In fact, it is humans who disrupt the milking cycle by not yielding to the needs of the cows to be milked on a fixed schedule. The dairy industry is a $4bn p.a. market, to disrupt the cows even for a short term (probably a couple of weeks to adjust to the new milking schedule?... just guessing, I'm an engineer, not a farmer)... would cause them to suffer some financial losses.
Cows yield is less during the transition - they DO lose money.
There are people who don't understand - and there's a lot of them.
Those old grannies worrying about the curtains fading were real.
My cousin wasn't an idiot, but she thought electricity leaked out of the socket if it was turned on with no plug in.
There again, maybe she was an idiot.... She loved banjo music too ....hmmmmm
Actually, there is a logic to this... let me explain.
Commercial farms that have milking cows are on a "tight" time schedule with respect to when the receiving trucks arrive to accept a load of milk at a dairy.
Because it is humans who are the dominant species and we have invented the concept of time (in the cognitive sense, not with respect to the universe)... the truck arrives everyday at *exactly* the same time (say 4am). A problem arises when DST is in effect. The cows are now milked an hour out of their normal routine, thus disrupting the milking cycle. This would not be a problem if the truck schedule were independent from DST and always used say UTC, but this would require the people working for the company to shift their entire day by one hour. Since we are the dominant species on the planet and control what we want to control, we allow the workers to clock-in at the same "chronological" time everyday.
So, humans are happy, but the cows are not. This is why you hear the argument that the it disrupts the cows milking cycle. In fact, it is humans who disrupt the milking cycle by not yielding to the needs of the cows to be milked on a fixed schedule. The dairy industry is a $4bn p.a. market, to disrupt the cows even for a short term (probably a couple of weeks to adjust to the new milking schedule?... just guessing, I'm an engineer, not a farmer)... would cause them to suffer some financial losses.
OIC!
You're not a farmer are you?
They don't work that way. Well, not in Victoria anyway.
Victorian Farmers do NOT alter schedules to suit public change.
Cows get milked at the same time (real time) with or without DST. Which is probably good that dairy farmers refuse to work on DST.
Dairies are compliant with this and pick up accordingly, implementing ISO 9001 (ISO 9001 purchasing, product specification, manufacturing processes, job descriptions, training, operating instructions, calibration and maintenance, hygiene and sanitation and occupational health and safety.) which also prevents any disruption to a Cow's time cycle.
Some of them may be backwards in believing the truth, but good on them for not budging
But beside the fact that they don't Milk at the wrong time, the point is that some still believe the Sun is made to stay up an hour longer.
Farmers do NOT alter schedules to suit public change.
Cows get milked at the same time (real time) with or without DST. Which is probably good that dairy farmers refuse to work on DST.
Dairies are compliant with this and pick up accordingly, implementing ISO 9001 (ISO 9001 purchasing, product specification, manufacturing processes, job descriptions, training, operating instructions, calibration and maintenance, hygiene and sanitation and occupational health and safety.)
Some of them may be backwards in believing the truth, but good on them for not budging
But beside the fact that they don't Milk at the wrong time, the point is that some still believe the Sun is made to stay up an hour longer.
Cool, thanks for the clarification. It was my understanding that the trucking schedule was fixed (not suiting public change, but rather a corporate one) when they arrive at the same "clock time" every morning (at least that it what I was told when I visited a dairy farm). Their explanation seems sound and logical, based on the facts stated to me... 4am is 4am, but in "real time" they are obviously not the same. Oddly enough, the USA uses DST and milk always seems available in the store...
I completely agree that people are silly for thinking that the sun stays up an hour longer... or that the curtains fade faster because the sun shines "longer on them"... complete idiocy.
And no, I'm an engineer, not a farmer... can't stand to get up too early in the morning (I'm a night owl ).
Cool, thanks for the clarification. It was my understanding that the trucking schedule was fixed (not suiting public change, but rather a corporate one) when they arrive at the same "clock time" every morning (at least that it what I was told when I visited a dairy farm). Their explanation seems sound and logical, based on the facts stated to me... 4am is 4am, but in "real time" they are obviously not the same. Oddly enough, the USA uses DST and milk always seems available in the store...
I completely agree that people are silly for thinking that the sun stays up an hour longer... or that the curtains fade faster because the sun shines "longer on them"... complete idiocy.
And no, I'm an engineer, not a farmer... can't stand to get up too early in the morning (I'm a night owl ).
Don't get me wrong. You could be partly right.
I don't know what happens in NSW as to milk timetable regulations, but Victoria milks at the same time (Non DST)
The Dairy workers probably like it too as they get to knock off an hour earlier (even though they have to start an hour earlier)
But in Summer that is good
ahhhh, it seems NSW milks at the DST time according to this comment: ""I think most farmers are inconvenienced, said dairy farmer Ian Lindsay, who is forced to milk in darkness on his property at Huntingdon on the Mid-North Coast."
He continues: "I am coming home to have my breakfast and it is still dark."
So NSW Dairies don't seem to alter their work hours to suit the cows.
I think Lester is a Dairy Farmer over in South Australia. It would be interesting to hear how they deal with it.
Just to continue on with the stupidity of some people regarding Daylight Savings Time, here is a recent letter sent to a Newspaper in Albury, proving that people are STILL that dumb:
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