well i checked the cables again, and then pulled everything apart again and replaced the cr2032 battery, put everything back together, manually moved the the whole setup around no power, to check the balance again then lined everything up - the moment of truth - turned it on - cold start, GPS updated perfectly, then even though i have not drift aligned i sent it to the moon - slewed perfectly - go figure??? mozzies are horrendous at the moment and the cloud has moved back over but will try later to drift align the mount. how frustrating it was - i have no idea if it was a cumulative thing or if it was the battery? i am relieved and very very happy it is now working. el draco i printed the manual - still havent read it