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Old 24-03-2016, 03:55 PM
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[QUOTEI can see you have passionate views on the matter.

Can you point to any particular reasons why the West is under attack.
Why are we being targeted.
In the mind of the enemy what has upset them.
It seems complex but you may know something that may help folk like me understand the mess.][/QUOTE]

Bin ladens manifesto or letter from 2002 may give you some insight into this madness

http://salempress.com/store/pdfs/bin_laden.pdf
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Old 24-03-2016, 03:59 PM
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All I am going to say is there is a major difference and perception in the Western world to terrorist actions and what is often viewed as a religious civil war. It is Isis against the world but sometimes it's difficult to pick the good guys from the bad.
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Old 24-03-2016, 04:32 PM
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Maybe this wasn't a good idea to start this thread.

It's intention was to inform everyone what happened, not to tell everyone how the media is selective on what it broadcasts.
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Old 24-03-2016, 04:35 PM
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If someone else started a thread on here on the exact same situation and they mentioned they have family in that country I would not instantly start talking about how the media don't mention about other attacks.

I only care about the innocent people this happens to.

(Not speaking to everyone here, just those who take this opportunity to prove a point).
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Old 24-03-2016, 04:54 PM
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It makes sense that if you have connection to a place you pay more attention to what happens there. I have friends and family in neighbouring countries and I must admit I will pay more attention to and get more emotional about attacks in that part of the world than most other places (including some Western countries like much of the US where I have no connections).

The graphic (text/info) Octane posted though is worth stopping and thinking about. It's good to put things in perspective. You are still safer in the West than almost anywhere else. The folks who cop the worst of it have to live, suffer and die under these psychos' rules.
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Old 24-03-2016, 05:57 PM
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My heart goes out to those who have senselessly lost their lives to the evil that this scum is. I, along with every other sane person, wishes and asks for the complete and utter destruction of those who commit these heinous crimes in the name of their "religion", while everyone else is left to pick up the pieces.

I hope your friends and family are safe.

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Old 24-03-2016, 07:59 PM
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Bin ladens manifesto or letter from 2002 may give you some insight into this madness

http://salempress.com/store/pdfs/bin_laden.pdf[/QUOTE]

Thanks but the dam thing won't download for me.

Anyway as noted above the thread is about the event and the victims.

We all feel rage I just can not understand why people can justify such murderous response enacted upon innocent people.
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Old 24-03-2016, 08:32 PM
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Bin ladens manifesto or letter from 2002 may give you some insight into this madness

http://salempress.com/store/pdfs/bin_laden.pdf
I could not be bothered reading the whole thing (i.e., Bin Laden's letter at the end of the document), but what I did read reads just like my mother's writing and speech. My mother is schizophrenic and psychotic most of the time (though that medical term does not mean what most people think it does).

The first 8 paragraphs you can safely skip because there is no content in them, just gibberish. Then he starts getting to the point but then there is more gibberish in what follows. A sane person hasn't got the patience for that nonsense. I reckon the message of the whole 2000+ word letter could be edited down to 200-300 words without losing any content. Just skim reading the thing it's freaky how much my of my schizophrenic mother I see there. (She's also obsessed with religious ideas though she had rejected all main- and minor-stream religions and has come up with her own pseudo-Judeo-Christian thing.) Just like my mother's letters and her lengthy voice mail messages I could not be asked to read or listen to the whole thing.

What I'm seeing here backs up my idea that these people are not "evil" but insane in a clinical sense and in a civilised society with adequate resources they'd be on community treatment orders; hospitalised as long as need be and given medication and psychiatric care long before they would harm others or themselves.

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Old 24-03-2016, 10:10 PM
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I can see you have passionate views on the matter.

Can you point to any particular reasons why the West is under attack.
Why are we being targeted.
In the mind of the enemy what has upset them.
It seems complex but you may know something that may help folk like me understand the mess.
The west is still seen by many as the 'old enemy'.
One example that I think really encapsulates what is going on is that during the second gulf war, a middle aged failed suicide bomber in Iraq (bomb didn't go off) was interviewed, and when asked to explain his actions, said that "my heart tells me to fight you." followed by "Can I live in the USA when I am free?" I have the transcript of it stashed away somewhere (can post it if I find it) but that seems to be a very common thread. The wish to live in the west and destroy it at the same time seems all too common.
It's something that just doesn't exist in our culture and one we will struggle to understand let alone truly come to grips with.
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Old 24-03-2016, 10:23 PM
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Thanks Ben for taking the time to post.
Most strange and certainly difficult to get ones head around.
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Old 25-03-2016, 12:47 AM
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What you're describing/quoting sounds like a case of something like hating the rich but wishing oh-so-much to be nothing but rich.
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Old 26-03-2016, 06:21 PM
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Two of my friends live in brussels. One of them is a teacher and one of the students at their school was killed in the metro.
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And now they are even killing kids at a football game.
http://www.news.com.au/world/middle-...from=public_js
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