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12-12-2013, 03:53 PM
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In Science it is usual for a person who wishes to add to, modify, or completely debunk a theory to first understand that theory. This, of course, requires work but there is no short-cut. There are plenty of text books out there and you can even do tertiary courses (if you first gain the necessary qualifications). Once you have brought your education up to an appropriate level perhaps then you can contribute to our knowledge of the structure of stars and the universe. Remember though when discussing physics and cosmology the appropriate language is mathematics. Arm waiving doesn't cut the mustard.
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12-12-2013, 03:55 PM
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Since there's some evidence on the web that this professor chap is a religious nutter:
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Originally Posted by Proverbs 26:4
When arguing with fools, don't answer their foolish arguments, or you will become as foolish as they are.
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Originally Posted by Shark Bait
Time to fess up. Who is the IIS'er poking holes in the Sun for fun?
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Yup, I think you're on to something. That's a big pile of bait up there.
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12-12-2013, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by LuRuello
I'd LOVE you to speak to Eric Dullard and convey your thoughts about his hollow Sun theory sometime, IF you dare. Just go to his Youtube page and hit him up!
While you're here, plse explain how the c in E=mc2 has any bearing on Energy? Thanks. 
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I just googled this professor's name, and it is Eric Dollard, not Dullard-is this a Freudian slip?
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12-12-2013, 04:29 PM
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Ebotec Alpeht Sicamb
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LuRuello
I'd LOVE you to speak to Eric Dullard and convey your thoughts about his hollow Sun theory sometime
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Where does Eric stand on the "do stars have points" issue?
Cheers
Steffen.
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12-12-2013, 04:38 PM
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Bright the hawk's flight
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Dare I suggest we stop feeding the trolls!
Malcolm
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12-12-2013, 04:38 PM
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LuRello,
When making extraordinary claims, it really is up to you to provide some data to back it up. You are free to express your opinion, but that is all your statements are.
At the end of the day, who cares about an opinion when compared to solid Science.
I suspect you are simply stirring the pot. If not, do as others have suggested and pick up some reputable texts.
Stu.
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12-12-2013, 05:04 PM
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Now now kids, this is a family show....! (Guess my user name might suggest where I stand on where the universe is going and where it came from...hehehe.....one thing we can all agree on is that it sure is cool!)
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12-12-2013, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Bert
In an infinite universe or an infinity of an infinite number of Universes we do not have much wriggle room as to what is possible or probable.
The preposterous idea of a hollow star is possible. Only a mind devoid of any Physics could even contemplate such a deranged idea. Only a hollow mind could even begin to contemplate its own lack of logic or lack of knowledge and reality.
Please learn some Physics. It is not difficult!
I do know that most of science is counterintuitive. This does not mean that the intuition of a paid up member of the ignorati is anywhere near reality.
If I have offended anyone it was with the full knowledge of the pathetic intelligence and ignorance of that they themselves have shown.
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You always manage to bring a smile to my face Bert, nicely put.
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12-12-2013, 05:31 PM
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I'm staying out of this ...I'm in ' spectator ' mode ......
Flash.....
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12-12-2013, 05:36 PM
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Oh, I See You Are Empty!
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Eric Dollard's discussion... easier to understand while intoxicated or on mind altering drugs. Alternatively, a frontal lobotomy should help, your mileage may vary.
His logic is undeniabl.......................... ...........................y surreal.
"Nuclear fission is a religion"
http://youtu.be/asesblfb4zI
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12-12-2013, 06:12 PM
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Quote:
While you're here, plse explain how the c in E=mc2 has any bearing on Energy? Thanks.
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Too bad it's a rhetorical question otherwise I would have answered it.
Steven
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12-12-2013, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by OICURMT
Eric Dollard's discussion... easier to understand while intoxicated or on mind altering drugs. Alternatively, a frontal lobotomy should help, your mileage may vary.
His logic is undeniabl.......................... ...........................y surreal.
"Nuclear fission is a religion"
http://youtu.be/asesblfb4zI
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That Youtube clip is truly beautiful! Hilarious! He's not Professor - he's Doc from Back To The Future Sitting in his De Lorean waiting for 1.21 gigawatts to hit the church steeple!! I can just glimpse the Flux Capacitor. Oh my what a hoot!   
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12-12-2013, 09:03 PM
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Doc, er, Professor D was also a heavy hitter in the USA Psychotronics Association back in the 80's.
Watch the big fella strut his stuff! He gets into the effect of The Ether (yes that's right, The Ether!) on RNA and DNA, which he and his cohort describe as having a spiral structure - but I am sure he means supercoiled double helical structure. Such trifling mistakes don't matter when you're at the cutting edge....
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12-12-2013, 09:30 PM
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While we're all having a laugh, or boiling with rage about the seemingly silly posts based on Professor D's theories, there is a sombre and sobering undertow to all this.
And that is the precipitous fall in the nation's levels of literacy including its ability to teach science effectively in schools. The recent stats released by the OECD show Australia slipping at a great rate on most indices of school achievement. And this is the worry.
Without an appropriate education system in place to educate students at least to the level of an informed layman in the sciences, people will become more and more prone to accept uncritically the thinking that is reflected in Dollard's ravings.
The IIS forum represents one of the best forms of public dispersion of science. It is an information exchange for everyone from green beginners, young curious kids, keen amateurs, students and so on to hear from the other members, many of whom are mathematicians, physicists, astronomers, biologists, medicos, It experts, meteorologists, and on and on. All contributing in a collegial manner to help even the youngest and most unfamiliar person wanting to know about astronomy.
So, thank you to LuRuello for reminding me, and I hope many of you, that the pursuit of science is always a hair's breadth away from a descent into acceptance of popularist non-science.
Richard.
Last edited by bkm2304; 12-12-2013 at 09:48 PM.
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13-12-2013, 03:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bkm2304
Doc, er, Professor D was also a heavy hitter in the USA Psychotronics Association back in the 80's.
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You don't say...
I'm going to watch "The Men Who Stare At Goats" again right now!
Cheers
Steffen.
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24-12-2013, 02:17 PM
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Science is a method to get to the best rational idea of how the Universe ticks and is only constrained by the experimental methods and equipment.
We are no closer to all the infinite knowledge than what a bacteria or worm knows. At least we are aware of this! A worm or bacteria just gets on with life without making outlandish statements of their own bogus abilities as it is meaningless in their Universe. They have chemical/enzymatic pathways and if these are made up rubbish like what really stupid humans make up due to their own limited knowledge they will die! Fortunately/Unfortunately really ignorant and or stupid people can survive because the majority of humans are caring and empathetic .
Many smart people invented Peer Reviewed Science as a way of sorting the wheat from the chaff.
I would not normally go to this trouble for an absolutely ignorant idiot. But as they used to say 'the job of the village idiot is to show the rest of us how not to behave!'
Armed with all the comments the original poster should go away and then come back after reading some real science.
If he does not, he/she is just another troll.
Bert
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01-01-2014, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by avandonk
We are no closer to all the infinite knowledge than what a bacteria or worm knows.
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Leave my ignorant family out of this!
On topic: Is not a black hole just a neutron star on some serious steroids? It is still a star of sorts, but with insane gravity.
Having watched The Elegant Universe (PBS), I am familiar with the concepts of string- and m-theory, etc. I am, however, in no way fully grasping of it... That isn't me. I like the idea of wormholes, but until I see proof, they remain science fiction, the domain of Roddenberry et al.
To even suggest that stars are hollow is nuts! How do you explain the massive gravitational pull on Jupiter, Saturn, the Oort Cloud? Let alone the inner planets. You can't do that with a superheated Dyson sphere.
And how could it remain hollow, with no internal structure to keep it in place?
I'll go with 'troll' on this one. Bored troll, I think.
Last edited by Shano592; 01-01-2014 at 11:18 PM.
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